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Title: Is this a real job??
Post by: leftoverinmn on Dec 29, 2004, 06:07:09 PM
When the PBFH remarried, she really sunk her claws into a good one. He owns a construction company, VERY well off. So well off, in fact, that she doesn't have to work a day in her life.

When she sued DH for child support, she got a large chunk because her income is so low. It's nonexistant on paper. However..

The kids tell DH that she does all the books and accounts payable/receivable for his million dollar company. I went to hotjobs.com and read that an accountant of that magnitude has a median salary of $98,000/year.

When he takes her back to court, and she says she doesn't have a job, can he thrown down to the court that she does all the books for her husbands company?? It might only be on the hearsey that the kids told him...

You guys are all so good at this stuff!
Title: RE: Is this a real job??
Post by: joni on Dec 30, 2004, 09:13:28 AM

Absolutely, some sort of wage should be imputed for the BM.  In the very least, the wage level she was earning before she stopped working.
Title: RE: Is this a real job??
Post by: KAT on Dec 30, 2004, 11:56:21 AM
What state are you in? If it's income share run the numbers. You might be suprised to find that his obligation to child support actually goes UP because of the COMBINED income b.s. system that is used. YUP, that's right. Give it a try!
KAT
Title: RE: Is this a real job??
Post by: leftoverinmn on Dec 30, 2004, 08:25:18 PM
Oh, thanks KAT.. But what is income share? I don't understand. We're in MN.

By the way, you guys are great....
Title: RE: Is this a real job??
Post by: KAT on Dec 31, 2004, 04:19:12 AM
Hey Kiddo, if they use both incomes to determine child support that's considered income share. Some states just take a percentage off the top from the NCP.
Not knowing what your husband makes, pays in health insurance ect. It's impossible to say. If her income is that high & your husbands alot lower then it's entirely possible (though I wouldn't count on it) she COULD be made to actually pay him child support. Yeah, I know, I get the giggles just thinking about that one. But they would probably just your husband pay medical or call it wash. Judges can deviate from the guidelines so even if it shows a neg they would probably make sure he contributes something. This could be very interesting!
Here is a quick NM calculator. Give a try & let me know how it turns out!
http://www.alllaw.com/calculators/Childsupport/new_mexico/
KAT
Title: Never can tell...........
Post by: cathy on Dec 31, 2004, 07:47:59 AM
Have never dealt with this personally, but have heard where they will impute an income in some cases.  Personally, I think they should impute AT LEAST minimum wage for a parent.

That said - she probably wouldn't be considered an accountant for $98K.  That probably require certification, CPA, and /or experience.

I would at least mention to the judge that it is your belief she is doing this, and that she is capable of earning an income to help support her children.  Does she have a degree?  any special training?  prior employment?  Get as much info as you can!

This site may be helpful (Minnesota, right?)

http://ocse3.acf.dhhs.gov/ext/irg/sps/report.cfm?State=MN&CFID=193934&CFTOKEN=35402016#6

Title: RE: Never can tell...........
Post by: leftoverinmn on Dec 31, 2004, 12:44:47 PM
Heh, heh, she has a psychology major and a minor in women's studies. I don't know what "Women's Studies" is, but I think they sit around and talk about how oppressed they are, and how lucky they are to have vaginas..

Someone here told me that people become psychologists to fix themselves, I told that to the DH, he laughed..
Title: That is what I would latch onto....
Post by: cathy on Dec 31, 2004, 03:33:57 PM
Look up various jobs with a psychology major and what the going rate is.  If she has the qualifications, her income should be computed as to what she is capable of earning.
Title: RE: Never can tell...........
Post by: wendl on Jan 01, 2005, 11:29:52 AM
Also check with Labor and Industry in your area to see if she is a joint parnter OR if she is listed as the VP of the company, if so she is employed, and is entitled to 50% of new hubbys income therefore makes 50% of that.

I know in my state you can see whom a business is registered too

Try this:
http://www.comm.media.state.mn.us/bookstore/state_register.asp

http://www.doli.state.mn.us/

It is all public record usually so you could als try and call them.

**These are my opinions, they are not legal advice**
Title: RE: Never can tell...........
Post by: joni on Jan 01, 2005, 02:56:39 PM

Usually, it's a SEcretary of State office that hold the State Articles of Incorporation of the business and where they file their annual report for the corporation.  If she's listed as an officer of the corporation, you got her for earning big money!!!

Try this

http://da.sos.state.mn.us/minnesota/corp_inquiry/corp_inquiry-find.asp?:Norder_item_type_id=10
Title: Come on now leftover, we want to know!!
Post by: KAT on Jan 02, 2005, 05:03:02 AM
Can you catch her making big money & reverse support??? :) :) :)

Probably a good chance that she figures hubby is too stupid to dirt dig & since c/s has been settled she's free to make whatever!

KAT
Title: RE: Come on now leftover, we want to know!!
Post by: leftoverinmn on Jan 02, 2005, 06:39:19 PM
Oh, jeez. Wouldn't that be something else.

She'd have take that degree in women's studies and sell tires.