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Title: Idaho Guidelines
Post by: pip on Jan 20, 2007, 12:37:36 PM
Good afternoon.  I am a first time poster and I need some thought on an issue that we are fighting here in Idaho.  I have two children, which I am providing support for here in Idaho One turned 18 in December of 2005 and then Graduated from high school in June of 2006.  By Idaho's guidelines he is now "emancipated” there has been no provision in the current stipulation for an automatic reduction in the child support amount.  Now here's where it gets dicey.  I have been forced, due to any sort of an agreement during "good faith negotiations" to petition the court.  Idaho support guidelines read as follows:

In a proceeding to modify an existing award, children of
The party requesting the modification who are born or adopted after the entry of the existing order shall not be considered.

Makes sense.
Now, I am the petitioning party.  The custodial parent is not and it doesn't address the issue of her two "extra" children.
We have petitioned the court.
She has responded and asked the court to consider her two children from her current relationship, and demanded that the court exclude mine pinning her argument on the above referenced portion of the Idaho Child support guidelines.

Now we have answered, and finished with oral arguments on Friday, 1/19/2006.  We based our argument on a piece of legislation passed by the Idaho legislature and signed by our Governor in July of 2000, in which we feel this issue was handled. It reads as follows:

Statement of Purpose / Fiscal Impact

                STATEMENT OF PURPOSE
                      RS 09790
     The purpose of 'this legislation is to make clear to the Supreme Court when
     Adopting the Child Support Guidelines that the current section in Chapter VI on
     Adjustments for Selected Special Factors: Additional Dependents can no longer
     Be used.
     The current Guidelines impose an additional financial burden on the non-custodial
     Parent each time the custodial parent brings children from other relationships into
     Their home to live, i.e., child(ren) from new or old relationships, natural or
     The current Guidelines allow the courts to increase the non- custodial parent's
     child-support obligations if the custodial parent has remarried and there are
     additional dependents from that new relationship.
     The current Guideline is unfair and requires guidance from the law on Child
     Support Guidelines in order to make it clear that the courts are not allowed to
     make any adjustments for additional dependents.

Now, we also introduced several other "fairness" arguments as well.
Our judge will issue a written decision, which we expect will take over 60 days to get.

Finally, we aren't really confident that he will use hjr 1376 as a controlling piece of legislation.  Judging by his opening remarks, we just don't feel really confident about this.

If he rules against us since there is no case law here in the state.  It will affect EVERY non-custodial parent here in Idaho.  As, custodial parents will be able to count their children from their new relationships, and us non-custodial parents will not.

My question, finally, is this.  Should we loose this important argument, is there any advocacy groups that would be willing to help us in our appeal.  We're nine months into this and quite frankly, my financial resources are becoming somewhat limited.

THANK YOU for your time and consideration.

Title: RE: Idaho Guidelines
Post by: leon on Jan 20, 2007, 02:13:49 PM
Additional dependants, are of no legal, or financial consequense or burden to you.
If you feel the need, you may Email me,
Secondly, so you mean there is actual legislation, or pending legislation as far as the custodial being able to claim there dependants as a need to increase,  This is very important///
if you are for true Email me
Title: RE: Idaho Guidelines
Post by: pip on Jan 20, 2007, 02:38:55 PM
This is based on fact.  The legislation that I have posted here is designed to eliminate any and all "extra" children from being considered.  However the guidelines do not indicate that fact.  They only provide a position on the petitioning parties extra children.  Bottom line, if you are a non custodial parent in the state of Idaho and you petition the court for a change in support due to a substantial change,  the custodial parent may have their extra children considered, while you the petitioning party may not.
Title: RE: Idaho Guidelines
Post by: leon on Jan 20, 2007, 05:01:32 PM
illegal, its called discrimination.Equal protection of the laws, of course Child Support is whole nother creation, but such legislation,"Guidelines" would not hold in the higher courts.
You realy need to Email me, there is what they call Cooperative Agreements "Private law" the states dont want to admit they exist, but I have two states right now "Alaska, and Texas" every state has them implemented, as mandated by Congress under Title IV-d of the Social Security Act, Title 42 United States Code, Subsection 654-666, and Reconfirmed under Title 45 Code of Fedral Regulations.
The states and the Agencies have Agreed by Contract to abide by the federal laws, and under the fedral side they cannot do it, which the contracts make all OF IT, FEDERAL LAW, under the Exspenditure Clause.
The enaction of the Contracts also violates several sections of the U.S Constitution, but knowone has been pleading them, and so the states get away with what they do,,, I have a case in the Ninth Circuit right now on the Cooperative  Agreements and other issues, the lower courts refused to even discuss it, but the more people that spread the word, sooner or later the public is going to be outraged.

P.S did you know the Agency, the AG of youre state, the Judge all have a Pecuinary enterest in every child support case, and they are bound by the contract to perform to acheive the HIGHEST amount of award as possible, ask youre judge or any Attorney about the Cooperative AGreements"Private LAW" and they will deny it, or ignore you, they exist in every state, with signatures, dates, transmittal numbers and ETC..
Title: RE: Idaho Guidelines
Post by: pip on Jan 20, 2007, 08:39:49 PM
I have sent you an e-mail through the tab here on the forum.  Please respond to me directly at the address provided.  Thanks!