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I am not a person who is able to give u advice.All i can say is that i can say is 2 is that i will pray for u and i hope this helps

[(Now i know what people will say when read that part.I am not wanting to her to be Happy.Hell i wish she would be.Maybe i could speak to my kids.But i am a PARENT who believes u should NEVER subject a 6 and 7 yr old to multiple man in that early stages of life.Hell her last men she had MY KIDS calling him daddy and now she claiming they never wanna speak to me )]

Is the RO still in place? If it is, you should not be contacting her, should you?

What did the temporary custody order state regarding telephonic communication?  If   You moved from your children.  Unless a new order was set giving you alternative visitation, you are entitled to what you were given but it would have to be in accordance with the orders.

I could be confused...you moved to NY but you are trying to keep her and the children in GA...why?

Well the Ro that gave  her temp custody and that one has expired.As for contacting her,I am but only to speak to the kids,Cause all the third party people that was set up.She has either move in with them are she has pissed them off and all.So i have no choose but to contact her directly.

As for the temp custody it was set up under the RO that has expire and it said i was not to contact her are the kids.Except there a third part person.However that goes back to the sentence above


I could be confused...you moved to NY but you are trying to keep her and the children in GA...why?

My reason for her not trying to move is cause these following reason.

1.She is moving to be a man and all
(Now i know what people will say when read that part.I am not wanting to her to be Happy.Hell i wish she would be.Maybe i could speak to my kids.But i am a PARENT who believes u should  NEVER subject a 6 and 7 yr old to multiple man in that early stages of life.Hell her last men she had MY KIDS calling him daddy and now she claiming they never wanna speak to me )

2.The second reason is cause this is the 3 time she has pull the kids out of the school in the middle of the year to move in with some man.

3.Is cause she moving to keep me from ever visiting my kids.She has now moved 4 time since 2008 and all.

4.Cause she thinks OUR kids is a personal plaything and that they do not have rights and all.I mean they make friends and then she finds some sort of sap who will pay her bills and then she will move them.

I hope that does not sound mean.But those are why i am having a issue.


If someone is too say,"How come i am not back down in GA.I would be however i am unemployed for over a yr now.Cause she has a criminal charge against me that when a employer looks at it,They will not hire meat all until the charge is drop,Are until i go to court for it


Now to be honest i would not have a issue with her moving at all.As long it was done after the kids was out of school and all.And she call me and said look i am moving for such and such.And here is  the address so when u come down u can visit them.Then i would not have a issue at all

If you are still legally married with no divorce papers filed, they are your children and you can move them regardless of her novice knowledge of various statutory codes. Has an order been filed? Has paperwork been filed? If not, you should strike first. You should ask for custody. It appears that she is the one who took the kids without your consent and knowledge.

Keep emailing her request and allow her to respond as an idiot. This will give you documentation at the hearing and in your discovery (interrogatories).

What this nut does not realize, unless the legal system has started, you are their father. Even when the system grants custody regardless of custody, the kids have a mother and father and your wife needs to realize that and grow up.

We are still married,However we are separated at the time.

The only order that has been filed was the one that granted her Temp custody due to the RO .I was awarded first and third weekends.However we was in talking terms.So i was offer a job in ny and i took and every since then she has not let me see them are speak to them.When i prepare to come down to see them.She moves and then it takes moves to find her and i am back square one all over.I have email her and even myspace her and even have call the courts to let them know i been in contact with her even with a ro attack and they will not help me at all.Cause i was told that the reason why a judge issue a ro is cause the other person is in fear of this person.However she is not at all cause she will call my gf phone and leave voice mails and so and so on

As for the grown up part.She does not believe i have a right to them cause this here is what she said


      
   
      
         Date:      
                            Mar 5, 2009 12:39 PM                        
   
      
         Subject:      
                Hey
   
         
         Body:      
                Just so you knoow i am not fighting with you..
You moved away that is why you havent seen youre kids.
Youwas able to see them like you was suppose to when you lived here .Nowyou cant becouse you moved youre choice you left them......
       THE END!!!!!!!!!!         
         
          So if u have any ideas on what 2 do with this person,Please feel free to contact me and all

[So look i am going to keep asking.Can i give u my number so can the kids can call and speak to me and all.Andi am not going to stop wanting to speak to the kids.As u keep trying to keep them from me.So i am asking ONCE AGAIN.Can i call and speak to the kids.U need to stop doing that and let me speak to the kids"]

I been emailing me separate wife for the last day.Sending this same email every day for the last 4 days. I stop sending it cause this is not getting anywere with her

The email says this "

So look i am going to keep asking.

Can i give u my number so can the kids can call and speak to me and all.Andi am not going to stop wanting to speak to the kids.As u keep trying to keep them from me.So i am asking ONCE AGAIN.Can i call and speak to the kids.U need to stop doing that and let me speak to the kids"

Well today she responded back with this

I DID not call Kay quite emailing me they DONT want to TALK to YOU so LEAVE
usALONE. AND I CAN LIVE WHERE EVER I WANT AND I WILL BE GOING BACK TOALABAMA SOON. SO I SAY AGAIN LEAVE ME ALONE AND MY FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!

So i reply back saying this

Well if u go back to Alabama,I will have u arrested for kidnapping the kids.Are better yet here is the law that can make u come back to Ga.It called a Notice of Intent to Relocate.U can google the law and then u will see what it means.If u move i can file a emergency hearing and u will have to return to ga with the kids are face charges of kidnapping.Also there are not UR KIDS.I will be calling and speaking to them on their birthdays .And what family do u mean,Those are my kids as well and not all yours....I will be emailing you to contact the kids and all.Cause i have a BIO right to them and by u not letting me speak to them.Then that looks bad for u in court.Also why is our son having issues and school and all.Plus u have my number i expect to hear from the kids soon.


If she pulls the moving the kids shitagain.What can be done to stop her while i am on my way down to GA toget the kids from her..Any advice would be greatful

["that my kids do not want to speak to me.Cause i hurt them"When ask to speak to them and to ask them if this is true and if they honestly feel like daddy had hurt them and why do they feel this way.She says 1 are 2 excuses.The first one is always cause they are in bed.That excuse is cause when she did call she would call when it was time for them to be in bed.The second one is i am not going to force them to speak to u if they do not want too.So i have come to the believe that my kids was either force to say thisAre BM is saying this to piss me off and make a excuse to keep me from speaking to them.Are she has told them a bunch of lies to make them think i did some sort of harm too them.I have keep every text message and myspace message and screenshots of were she has writing i am gay on my pic app on myspace as well...I have save that way i can prove she and he has sent me message and all .So that way i can try to USE it in court if i can.To show the courts that i am and have always made attempts to speak to my kids at all time.Plus lately her BF has been texting me thru my email account wondering when i am coming down and allhere is a copy of the text message's.I removed the last 4 #,So that way BM & Bf cannot say i am putting them in danger as well as my kids.Cause she has tried that game before...]

I was wondering if anyone has dealt with this issue and could offer some advice to help me understand what may be going on...


My kids BM & BF are saying that my kids do not want to speak to me.Cause i hurt them.
What i am finding funny is before June 13 2008.( THE DATE SHE STOP CALLING TO LET ME SPEAK TO KIDS).They was happy speaking to me and was looking forward to coming to NY to visit me and play in the snow.Now after the June 13 2008 date she has call are myspace me and my common reply is i wanna speak to the kids.

Well BM famous reply is this "that my kids do not want to speak to me.Cause i hurt them"


When ask to speak to them and to ask them if this is true and if they honestly feel like daddy had hurt them and why do they feel this way.She says 1 are 2 excuses.The first one is always cause they are in bed.That excuse is cause when she did call she would call when it was time for them to be in bed.The second one is i am not going to force them to speak to u if they do not want too.


So i have come to the believe that my kids was either force to say this
Are BM is saying this to piss me off and make a excuse to keep me from speaking to them.Are she has told them a bunch of lies to make them think i did some sort of harm too them.

I have keep every text message and myspace message  and screenshots of were she has writing i am gay on my pic app on myspace as well...I have save that way i can prove she and he has sent me message and all .So that way i can try to USE it in court if i can.To show the courts that i am and have always made attempts to speak to my kids at all time.



Plus lately her BF has been texting me thru my email account wondering when i am coming down and all
here is a copy of the text message's.I removed the last 4 #,So that way BM & Bf cannot say i am putting them in danger as well as my kids.Cause she has tried that game before...

Got ur mail yall sent to my po box so when  u comming down
Hooper



so when  that going to happen
Hooper

Also if someone want to look at her message she has sent me and can tell me what GAME she is trying to play.I will be more then happy to copy and paste them for people to read and all.I mean i really wanting someone advice on this.I mean i can only imagine several of the people on her have been  thru what I'm going thru and can assist me


Chris

Sounds to me like the babysitter is in your ex's back pocket and doesn't have a clue how the custody/support world works.  Yes, you are right, support and custody/visitation are separate issues, but I strongly recommend you break off all contact with this babysitter.  I have a feeling that everything you've posted to her has gotten back to your ex.  And all that does is give your ex more ammunition against you.  If you have a problem getting a job because of a negative background check (because of the no contact order?), then I recommend you talk to your atty. about it.  It may be a matter of filing a petition to get your CS suspended until the RO is no longer in effect, so that you can get a job to continue support.  Stranger things have happened..........

Well the  wife is trying to have NY state enforce it.I was giving a chance to contest the validity of it.So i wrote back with why i am asking for NY not to enforce it and gave them reason...As for the attorney comment.I wish i could get one.but all of them are wanting 4500 dollars cause of what i am told them she is claiming and all.I think it bullshit they want that much when the economic is so bad

but hey i guess the saying for lawyer is true
"Lawyers Are": Those who earn a living by the sweat of their brow-beating.

[CAUSE I DONE IT AND I NEED TO PAY FOR THE CRIME]

I got this letter from a person that at once babysitter of  my kids for my separated wife.I got this response after messaging her asking her  had she seen my kids.

This is the entire message from start to bottom.My question is for  you all is her response. When she message me saying she can get my sep wife to let me see my kids on webcam as long as i make some sort of CS payment.I would like to know hat u all think of that idea and was i out of line with my reply back to her


The person is named Gail...


No they have not .I already spoken to them>It has not been before a grand jury are anything.Sorry to say this but that woman wants me in Jail CAUSE I DONE IT AND I NEED TO PAY FOR THE CRIME.her own words. As for mickeys d.they do background checks as well. Well i do agree with you that the kids need me in there life's as well.However ask Liz and she seems to thinks i do not need to be .And so the story continues with me looking 4 work And people telling me in order to see my kids.I must make Child support payments.Last time i look these kids are not label with a sign stating in order to see me u MUST MAKE Child support payments.I mean since June 13,08 she is the one that stop letting me speak to them.Has she even told u the truth about anything at all.I mean hell
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Gail
To: Chris
Date: Mar 29, 2009 9:06 AM
Subject: RE: hello


Shecant drop the charge the DA pick it up!! What about going to work atMcdonalds? The kids need you too be in Their lifes Do what ever ittakes to help!

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Chris
To: Gail
Date: Mar 28, 2009 10:53 PM
Subject: RE: hello


Gaili would love to be able to send that to her for the kids.But as u well know she has that charge against me and with me living up here and that showing up on a background check with me even trying to get a job @Mickeys d.I cannot even work at all.I have ask her numerous times to please drop the charge so i can work and make the payments that the kids need.I have never once not wanted to pay for the kids to be token care of at all.
I go day buy day looking for work and all.So if u can please try to talk to her about getting this charge drop and so at least it gives me a chance to get passed a background check and start work.
I would be more then happy to take the web cam things and even speaking to them.So can u please see were i am coming from

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Gail
To: Chris
Date: Mar 28, 2009 8:01 PM
Subject: RE: hello


Listen you start sending your child support only 75.00 a week and I will make sure you can talk to the kids at least twice a week via web cam . The kids need the cloths and shoes for school I will help you but you have too help your babbies!!!!!!! Gail

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Chris
To: Gail
Date: Mar 20, 2009 12:36 PM
Subject: RE: hello



How did they look and all.I mean have they grown and all.Plus do u have anyidea why she is claiming that the kids do not want to see me
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Gail
To: Chris
Date: Mar 20, 2009 9:57 AM
Subject: RE: hello


Last week at walmart

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Chris
To: Gail
Date: Mar 17, 2009 10:41 PM
Subject: hello


So when was the last time u have seen my kids.
I was just wondering is all                  
         

I'd like to toss in a couple of things too....

A)  hang in there.  Look you got handed a bag of $#(*.

B)  do you have birth certificates for the child(ren) in question?  If no, it may be good to get one.  Request to the state records dept where they were born, give them you name and SSN for verification and probably pay $10 for notarized copies.  Will help you possibly with the school in convincing them you're the dad and therefore have the right to their records, etc.  There is no HIPPA equivilent for schools.  Push too hard and you'll probably wind up with the School Districts Attorney responding.  Might also try sending your plight (in a nice way) to some of the local news stations.  These things are sometimes run as public interest pieces where you say there's nothing legally binding or preventing your access to the records, etc.....

C) Lawyer up for sorting out the RO.  Its possible if she filed ex parte and said that she didn't know where you were or where you lived, the courts just went along with it.  I have no experience with that (thankfully).

Good luck!

I will try the news option as well.Thanks for the tip and all.

As for the Bc and getting them for  the school to prove i am there father.The school superintendent stated to  me that even if i could show prove that i am the Bio Dad.If my wife signs her self as legal guardian then there is nothing they can do.They even claim that it might have to go before Supreme court before i can get this info...


C) As for the c option.Oh she did the Whole RO so she could get the kids.Cause her own words was cause a judge and a police officer said so to get one.Since they cannot assit her with gettting teh kids unless a judges signs a order and all.Hell i even had a cop tell me before it was serve that there could be a chance one is being issue and was recording the whole conversatation and all

So between the two threads (one in Soc's section), you live in NY, not GA.

Seems like you need an attorney who is more aggressive.

Do you have one?

No i do not have a  lawyer at all.And all lawyers in ga are quoting 2500 to 3999 for them to accept this case.When i ask why so much and all.They say it is nature of  the case and that it  is a standard fee everyone normally charges

o.k., follow the school stuff up the chain of command.

do you have any parenting time with the kids even under the temporary arrangement which is quite old?

sounds to me like you need a real attorney to sort out your situation.

i plan on doing that with the school.


As for parenting plan.Yes  i am suppose to get them the 1 and third weekends of every moths and 2 weeks for the summer and she get them for 2 weeks and then i get them and we rotate on thanksgiving and Christmas and all

Yea i been told that alot