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The state would have had to apply for that last year, I think it's before October.

KAT

 There is a court order right? If you file next year w/the deduction all she has to do is send in a copy of that court order  for the IRS to award it to her. It doesn't matter who files first. It doesn't matter that you have custody more then six months out of the year. What matters is the court order. Been there, played this game for 10 years with DH's ex. If you want it changed file for a modification, but do it now so it's gets completed by years end...but by your last sentance, maybe, you know it's best to pick your battles. If your ex is like ours (was, it's over now) then you can just add that little tidbit in there during the next court battle.
KAT

What? You state:

>>And your final statement is purely an assertion - which no one has yet provided any evidence for. The state collects money MOST OF WHICH IS THEN PROVIDED TO THE CP TO SUPPORT THE CHILDREN. The federal government reimburses some of the state's cost of collecting. How is that not beneficial to the children?<<

First of all are you forgetting about the millions in performance bonuses per year, per state that is shelled out by the feds for child support collection? Are you forgetting about the millions that are shelled out in incentive bonuses of which the states can decide to spend it anyway they chose? I guess so because if you did, you would realize the following rings true.

IT ALL COMES BACK TO THE MONEY.

How you might ask? Let me explain. If you even care. I really don't now what's up with you lately.......

It all started with AFDC. This program was set up to reward young girls for having out of wedlock children. This is how things got set into motion. Why do they need a father for their kids when the state is providing for them for free??? They don't, because if they marry they lose the freebies!!!!  However, the states NEED the child support order to obtain all that federal money!!! But sadly most poor mothers procreate with just as poor fathers so most of the AFDC money is uncollectable....ahh, RATS! Backfire!! Then the Feds stepped in to help the states by providing the bonus money for collections! Whopppiee. How do we get a bigger piece of that pie??? The states then had to look at more middle class families, because with them they can collect! Collect = Federal $$$. Perfect!!! The states then became pimps for the Federal government dollar & made (mostly) middle class men the whores.

This is how they keep it working!!!


The states actually BENEFIT by keeping (usually the father's) as just a visitor in their child's life. This way there will be a child support order. The more child support orders, the more collections, the more Federal money. This is also why many states are now making garnishment mandatory. If there is a garnishment order then it automatically  counts as COLLECTION. If all this wasn't the case then they would adapt new laws that give EQUAL physical custody to both parents with NO child support changing hands. Think of how the welfare rolls would drop, how people would actually THINK before they bed down with a partner & how to avoid unplanned pregnancy. Children will no longer be pawns in a game that carry great cash rewards.  But the states don't care about families. The states care about money.

Basically our tax money goes towards the destruction of American Families which spirals down toward to the saddening statics of fatherless families (of which we are all aware). Which increase the crime rate, which generates the need for more institutions, which means more taxes. Which increases the need for social services...and so on.  We date our heritage back to the founders of this Great Country. They must be rolling over in their graves seeing how fast the rights of American's are being slowly degraded awat. Last year Mr. KAT & I paid $26,000 in Federal taxes alone, we call it feeding the *family* .... I wonder how much they made off our hard work this year? I bet they got more of an increase then we did.

KAT

 Agree. Jurisdiction of child support isn't going to change because she still lives in the state of origin. This would fall under the Uniform Interstate Family Support Act of which all states now recognize (like the Feds gave them a choice). You can read about it here: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cse/fct/uifsahb.htm

 This is done (for the most part) to prevent cs shopping. Think how many CP's would flock to states with higher CS levels such as New Hampshire.  I'd also be leery of taking her back to court. Since you moved the judge could hold your husband responsible for all transportation costs associated with her visitation. This could be in the form of modifying her support order to provide for the expense (full or partial) for visitation or making your husband be responsible for seeing that the child is produced for visitation (& returned). Tread carefully. Sometimes, it's just not worth it....

KAT

The states know how much it takes to raise a child as they pay it out monthly in welfare benefits. In most states that's $325 a month for one, a second one will get you an extra $25.00. Why should the CP get ANY more then HALF of what is already standard? If CP's can't afford to contribute their share, then perhaps custody needs to be given to the parent who CAN finanically afford to raise them. Think of how far the welfare rolls would drop & how much less taxes we would have to pay....I'm just saying. You say it takes $500+ plus to rasie a child in CA? So then the NCP's share is around $250 right??? OR are you saying that only the NCP should be finanically responsible? OR are you saying that it really takes 1k a month? Hmmmm

Don't worry, your CS will end someday soon. With any luck you'll get to sit back & watch Karma come around to bite the ex....it's been 2 years since the last one emancipated, our biohags life just gets better & better. Hahahahaha She has a myspace page, trust me, I haven't had such laughs in a long time!

KAT

Child support is simply another form of slavery:  involuntary servitude. Which goes against the 13th Amendment to US Constitution.

KAT

Your son is driving & working? Then subpoena the son! If he testifies falsely then he wouldn't be a son of mine any longer. Most states have forms on line. If you let us know which ones we can probably help you.

KAT

I'm sorry; I'm sitting here laughing my fanny off. This is exactly why DH asked for a wage garnishment order biohag would have done the same thing! She started to argue against having one but the judge stopped her in her tracks by giving her one minute to speak...."Well..I..just...I....don't understand why he would want to do that...because I..." DUH. Of course I couldn't take it anymore, the stress was killing me, I blurted out "Because you'll harass us!" It sounded like an explosion in an empty room so the judge made me leave.

Anyway, just go get it done. Every minute that you have to deal with her demands & trivial b.s. is one less minute out of your own life. She loves the drama, people like that feed on it so you need to put an end to it even if it means filling out the bias forms. Oh! You can fight to get that changed to if you like!! Start writing letters! Every little bit helps!
KAT

I wish you would come here earlier, I could have told you for free that the cs wouldn't be lowered by very much if at all. My Hubby continued to pay the biohag for an extra 13 months (between emancipations) because it simply wasn't worth the few thousand dollars it would have saved to see her ugly moon pie face again. I'm sure she thought she got over....but she was wrong!! hahaha

You can just copy & use the same forms your lawyer during the last modification making the appropriate changes. Your husband might be able to file this all by mail & ask (attach a letter, needs to cc to all parties) the judge if he can be heard telephonically due to travel costs (some judges allow it, some don't just ask!). Your lawyer should have told you up front that a modification was a waste of time at that point.

Don't worry, these next three years will fly by in no time. Trust me! Then you'll all be free & clear of the states slavery laws.

:)

KAT in VA

As long as you have a court order don't worry about it, that's what the IRS will go by.  Another option would have been to file an order to show cause/contempt against her asking for $$ damages & for her to amend her return. Trust me, we went thru this for six years, the seventh year just wasn't worth it so we let it go. I'm counting on Karma to make up for it and it's been working too! :) If you head back to court in the future make sure the judge makes her sign the proper IRS form for ALL the years you will need to claim the deduction (saves making copies of court orders).

Let me share with you a little story on evil. A few years ago our return was kicked out again so we filed a paper return with the court order DH takes stepson. Apparently they send a letter to the other party stating that they have a few weeks to dispute the information that was sent in, if not they will owe $$ plus penalties & interest. I get a call from a totally hysterical crying woman. Apparently in Jan. of the tax year biohag had *sold* the tax deduction for stepson to her for $200.00. Whoops, bad move. When you play with Diablo your bound to get burned & it wasn't something I was going to fix. However I did turn the woman on to some information I had just recently gleaned...bio told her husband the 2,200  per month child support stopped six months previous. I told her to tell the biohag is she didn't pay up with the next support check paid out the 6th of that month that she would tell the hubby about the bold face lie. Yeah, she got paid & biohag was out a few hundred bucks too. Sadly that's probably the only retribution that woman has EVER paid (though hubby did find the check stub in the trash a few weeks later).

KAT