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My X has filed a notice of relocation, she's moving 500 miles, to the same county where I live, and I would like to contest, only to revisit the Final Order and possibly get custody of my son or at least improve our visitation.

I know she messed with the dates of her move on her notice, she was already here when she filed notice, claiming she would be moving in 10 days, but was already here.
 Although I'm glad that my son is a lot closer to me, I still want to revisit the Final Order.  Any Comments ?

Brief history, and some concerns I have that I would like to address at the time of Hearing
left me at 3 mo. pregnant, didn't hear from her until a week before our son was born, I went to see son once a week for the 1st Mo., then with out any notice she moved, I didn't hear from her at all for 1 yr., until I was served, at hearing I was accused of abuse, stalking, etc, and judge ordered restraining/no contact order, & only gave me 1 hr a week supervised visits with my son, I drove close to 1000 mi. to see my son for 1 hr. I did this for months, until the GAL figured out all her claims were BS, they dropped the R.O. etc. but still limited me on the time I spent with my son, saying I had to work up to it because I was a stranger to him, then the mother not even bringing him to our visits, again I had to pay for her actions.

Childhood Immunizations, She's not taken our son for any, and claims she wont do it, he's 4 yr. old

Mother put her last name on our son's Birth Certificate,

Living conditions, possibly living in a old School Bus no water/bathroom, etc.Before she moved she called me saying she was moving, and that she knew nobody would like it but she was going to be living in a old school bus, Sm. Van/box type.
I just had him for 10 days and while driving he pointed toward the campgrounds where they were camping at and wanted to go see him mom, so I know they were living in the bus but not sure if it's still going on.

Home schooling mother claims she will home school our son, & I have no say
She claims she'll be schooling him, but she is working, I want him to attend public school where I live.


Mothers lifestyle, Mother has what I believe to be Borderline Personality Disorder,  she claims to be Bi sexual, & is exploring her sexuality with multiple partners, group, etc. and I have some real concerns as to who & what my son is being exposed to and some things that I've seen while staying with me, things of a light sexual nature.

Money owed me for her share of travel cost never paid, Final order stated she pay for cost of my travel for her share of travel distance 1/2, and she'd only paid me $ 10.00 towards Hundreds spent driving her half, so I want to get some kind of judgement for that.    she's in contempt on this.

Mother moved away from her city were Dispute resolution was being done, what now? new order for same here?
Final Order stated that if any dispute happened we try to resolve though a resolution/mediation service in her city, after one session, which only focused on my dropping the custodial interference charge I made on her, although their was much more I was looking to resolve, before the next session she moved, now leaving us without any way to resolve any disputes between us.

Or if it's better to not object to her relocation, and see if I can get a change of Venue into the County we both live now?
And what would that process be.

All help is greatly Appreciated   WA. Dad

Update

I contacted CPS they said I didn't have enough to get a investigation started, it's not againt the law to be homeless with kids in WA.
they suggested I go back though the Whatcom co, Court to address any of my concerns.

Mother has been acting 180 out of what see was doing to mein the past, but I don't trust her, when I told her I wanted to revisit the PP since she was living closer to me now, her reply was that the PP was just something to work off of, that she was willing to work with me on issuses without going to court, and said we cant get our case transfered to this Co. until she's lived here 6 Mo.

It's something I don't belive, theirs nothing to keep her from going back to the PP at any time, and I'm going to contact both Courthouses to find out the rules.
Meanwhile she's still living in a old schoolbus, this isn't something that has been turned into a RV, seats removed and matterss dropped on the floor, she's limited on how long she can stay at campground, and must move to the next one.
I 'll find out about the Sheriff  doing a well child visit to the campground and get that report.

Whatever Courthouse I have to adress all this to, I'll have some things to report to them.

I want to tell you all a big Thank you for all your comments,  the time you've taken to help, Thanks so much!

I dont have the funds to get Attorney at this time, so I'm doing what I can, until then, so any further comments would be great.

WA. Dad, Gary







>My X has filed a notice of relocation, she's moving 500
>miles, to the same county where I live, and I would like to
>contest, only to revisit the Final Order and possibly get
>custody of my son or at least improve our visitation.
>
>I know she messed with the dates of her move on her notice,
>she was already here when she filed notice, claiming she would
>be moving in 10 days, but was already here.
> Although I'm glad that my son is a lot closer to me, I still
>want to revisit the Final Order.  Any Comments ?
>
>Brief history, and some concerns I have that I would like to
>address at the time of Hearing
>left me at 3 mo. pregnant, didn't hear from her until a week
>before our son was born, I went to see son once a week for the
>1st Mo., then with out any notice she moved, I didn't hear
>from her at all for 1 yr., until I was served, at hearing I
>was accused of abuse, stalking, etc, and judge ordered
>restraining/no contact order, & only gave me 1 hr a week
>supervised visits with my son, I drove close to 1000 mi. to
>see my son for 1 hr. I did this for months, until the GAL
>figured out all her claims were BS, they dropped the R.O. etc.
>but still limited me on the time I spent with my son, saying I
>had to work up to it because I was a stranger to him, then the
>mother not even bringing him to our visits, again I had to pay
>for her actions.
>
>Childhood Immunizations, She's not taken our son for any, and
>claims she wont do it, he's 4 yr. old
>
>Mother put her last name on our son's Birth Certificate,
>
>Living conditions, possibly living in a old School Bus no
>water/bathroom, etc.Before she moved she called me saying she
>was moving, and that she knew nobody would like it but she was
>going to be living in a old school bus, Sm. Van/box type.
>I just had him for 10 days and while driving he pointed toward
>the campgrounds where they were camping at and wanted to go
>see him mom, so I know they were living in the bus but not
>sure if it's still going on.
>
>Home schooling mother claims she will home school our son, & I
>have no say
>She claims she'll be schooling him, but she is working, I want
>him to attend public school where I live.
>
>
>Mothers lifestyle, Mother has what I believe to be Borderline
>Personality Disorder,  she claims to be Bi sexual, & is
>exploring her sexuality with multiple partners, group, etc.
>and I have some real concerns as to who & what my son is being
>exposed to and some things that I've seen while staying with
>me, things of a light sexual nature.
>
>Money owed me for her share of travel cost never paid, Final
>order stated she pay for cost of my travel for her share of
>travel distance 1/2, and she'd only paid me $ 10.00 towards
>Hundreds spent driving her half, so I want to get some kind of
>judgement for that.    she's in contempt on this.
>
>Mother moved away from her city were Dispute resolution was
>being done, what now? new order for same here?
>Final Order stated that if any dispute happened we try to
>resolve though a resolution/mediation service in her city,
>after one session, which only focused on my dropping the
>custodial interference charge I made on her, although their
>was much more I was looking to resolve, before the next
>session she moved, now leaving us without any way to resolve
>any disputes between us.
>
>Or if it's better to not object to her relocation, and see if
>I can get a change of Venue into the County we both live now?
>And what would that process be.
>
>All help is greatly Appreciated   WA. Dad

My X has filed a notice of relocation, she's moving 500 miles, to the same county where I live, and I would like to contest, only to revisit the Final Order and possibly get custody of my son or at least improve our visitation.

I know she messed with the dates of her move on her notice, she was already here when she filed notice, claiming she would be moving in 10 days, but was already here.
 Although I'm glad that my son is a lot closer to me, I still want to revisit the Final Order.  Any Comments ?

Brief history, and some concerns I have that I would like to address at the time of Hearing
left me at 3 mo. pregnant, didn't hear from her until a week before our son was born, I went to see son once a week for the 1st Mo., then with out any notice she moved, I didn't hear from her at all for 1 yr., until I was served, at hearing I was accused of abuse, stalking, etc, and judge ordered restraining/no contact order, & only gave me 1 hr a week supervised visits with my son, I drove close to 1000 mi. to see my son for 1 hr. I did this for months, until the GAL figured out all her claims were BS, they dropped the R.O. etc. but still limited me on the time I spent with my son, saying I had to work up to it because I was a stranger to him, then the mother not even bringing him to our visits, again I had to pay for her actions.

Childhood Immunizations, She's not taken our son for any, and claims she wont do it, he's 4 yr. old

Mother put her last name on our son's Birth Certificate,

Living conditions, possibly living in a old School Bus no water/bathroom, etc.Before she moved she called me saying she was moving, and that she knew nobody would like it but she was going to be living in a old school bus, Sm. Van/box type.
I just had him for 10 days and while driving he pointed toward the campgrounds where they were camping at and wanted to go see him mom, so I know they were living in the bus but not sure if it's still going on.

Home schooling mother claims she will home school our son, & I have no say
She claims she'll be schooling him, but she is working, I want him to attend public school where I live.


Mothers lifestyle, Mother has what I believe to be Borderline Personality Disorder,  she claims to be Bi sexual, & is exploring her sexuality with multiple partners, group, etc. and I have some real concerns as to who & what my son is being exposed to and some things that I've seen while staying with me, things of a light sexual nature.

Money owed me for her share of travel cost never paid, Final order stated she pay for cost of my travel for her share of travel distance 1/2, and she'd only paid me $ 10.00 towards Hundreds spent driving her half, so I want to get some kind of judgement for that.    she's in contempt on this.

Mother moved away from her city were Dispute resolution was being done, what now? new order for same here?
Final Order stated that if any dispute happened we try to resolve though a resolution/mediation service in her city, after one session, which only focused on my dropping the custodial interference charge I made on her, although their was much more I was looking to resolve, before the next session she moved, now leaving us without any way to resolve any disputes between us.

Or if it's better to not object to her relocation, and see if I can get a change of Venue into the County we both live now?
And what would that process be.

All help is greatly Appreciated   WA. Dad

I'll be in Court next week, Pro Se?                         10/27/06

I only have a few people to witness as to my character, past parenting skills, etc.

But what I was looking for any advice as to what kinds of Question to ask the GAL in my case.
Can I ask him about everything he found out, how he found it, who he learned this information from.
And about if he looked into mothers medical records, and also talked with her Dr.  or any mental health records he looked at, and if he spoke to Dr. is that confidential or can I ask about it, or can he talk about it?

Any sugestions, or comments would be greatly appreciated.

Ive posted some backgrond below, and back a few posts (cont.....)
Thank You WA. Dad

I know he has info on mother regarding her use of false statements to get Restraing/Protecton Order, and Supervised visitation earlier in my case.
After GAL report cleared me and restrictions were lifted she still mad things hard for me to see my son.
Mother lost her job, lost her apartment in July, then gave custody of other 2 children to their Father, after moving she never filed any Relocatation papers with the Court, still hasnt, then I found out she bought a old school bus and hit the road for all Sept., then for a couple weeks in July.
In Oct. I went to mothers area, reported to GAL about the Job, Apt. and bus, etc.
I called, then asked mothers lawyer to contact mother so I could have a visit, she stalled, then said they wouldnt visit happen, because it had been so long since I'd seen my son, I dont think she was in the area.
then I filed contempt charges for not following PP, 2 weeks later at Hearing I told Commissioner I would drop contempt if I could see my son, he approved that, then mother appealed to a judge the next day, that judge upheld it, and we started 1st visit, during this visit, mother went and filed for Ex parte restraining order, that was denied, and the hearing 2 wks later was also denied. again she made up false statements.
In her statement she claimed that she was afraid of me, and that at that time said she was staying at a safehouse, I believe she was homeless at that time and living in the bus, its not converted into camper, no water, electric, restroom etc.
Thanks !

WE had a trial date set, and because of my med. condition I called her lawyer to reschedule court date, she agreed, and asked if we could agree on PP without goin to court, I told I felt we could, and asked her to send poposed PP to me, and I would do same.
the next day I called mother to see what her ideas were on PP. and found out that both cell, and home phone had been disconnected, the next day I called local Police to do a welfare check, they called back and told me she had kicked out in July, and that she move out of the county, it was end of Sept. at the time.
She never filed any Relocation Notice with Court, of informed anyone, and still hasnt done so.
because of her taking off before I started to worry, I made a trip over, collected Police reports, talked to Apartment manager, and GAL while I was there, I also talked with mothers lawyer and asked if she would contact mother so I could have a visit with my son, stalled, then told it had been to long since I'd seen my son, and they werent going to let me see him.
Back to the Library, and WA. Court forms, and to the Courthouse and filed Contemp on mother, after some discusion, I offered to drop comtemp charges if they would let me have visits with son, thats what the judge ordered, he layed out dates and times, next day mother apealed the ruling to another judge, denied !
I spent the next 3 days visiting son, then went back home
A couple days later, I was served again, mother while I was with son went to court for a Ex part? Restraining order and was denied, but still scheduled hearing, and at the hearing was denied again.
Now I'm on my way to court again for Custody trial, I think I'm good place, the GAL has seen some of the mother actions, lack of responsibility, etc.
I just wnt to tell others that if you just stick with it, do your best, sometimes if you give them enough rope..............
Good luck to all, I know your pain, your hopes and wishes.
God Bless you all, and pray he brings the children back into your life again.
WA. Dad

Continued.........................

continued............. It was my first time working with mother to scedule a visit with my son, at this time I'd had my son for 5 day&night visit. all on her side of state, so I asked for a 2 wk visit with me at my home, she claimed concerns that it might be to long a visit, he was 3 at the time, she reluctantly agreed, I drove the 10-12 hr drive, met her as arranged, and she tell me I cant take him, that she never agreed to the visit, but...... If I wanted to take him for a couple of days,  I  could.... meet with her lawyer, I agreed to talk with her lawyer, met her at the courthouse, and listened to what she had to say, she wanted to write out a temp. parenting plan and have me sign, as I listened to her speak about the T.P.P. I was soon aware it wasnt Father friendly, I voiced this to the lawyer and she told me that if I didnt sign it I wasnt going to see my son, I calmly stood up and walked out.
I spent the next 4 days at public Library and court facilitators, filed for a hearing for temp. P.P. and drove home.
Came back for my Hearing and left with 3 day visit with my son, and a Temp PP which was fair to me.
After this some medical ploblems kept me from visiting my son for awhile, but I stayed in contact, she wouldnt answer my calls but every chance I could I sent card, box of gifts, at b-day and X-mas cont........

I want to say Thanks for your info, it was helpful and a little calming for my nerves.

A little back ground on my case, I lived with mother for 6 months, we planned to get married, at 3 months together mother was pregnant, 3 months later mother leaves, unkown location until about 3weeks prior to giving birth.
The day my son was born she called me, and asked me over to see my new son, she lived in next town, 35 miles away, I went to see him that day, and back to see him at least 2 days a week forthe next couple months.
One day I went to see him, mother greeted me at the door and told me my visits with son would only take place at public place, of course I was somewhat upset, public setting not the greatest place for bonding with young baby.
Well in order to see my son I agreed, and the next time mother went shopping I was able to visit with my son while she pushed her cart around Walmart.
The next time I called to visit my son she didnt answer her phone, nor the many messages I left, that went on for a few weeks, until I went to her place to see what was up, as I drove up I say her other 2 kids playing on front porch, as I parked say the to kids going though the door, I got out and knocked on the door no answer, I knew she wasnt going to speak to me so went to the car for pen&papper to leave a note, as I walked back to the door, I heard someone call my name, turned around and the police were at the street, comanded me to put my hands up, and they searched me, then told me that mother called said I was at the door trying to pound the door down, and that I was dangerous, and carried a handgun.
I then had a chance to explain myself, I was there to see my son, hadnt heard anything for over a month.
The officer then went into mother house and talked with her, came back ask if I had any visitation orders etc. nope then told me that mother doesnt want me around there, to leave and not come back.
I tried to call her, but could only leave voicemail message asking for  info why she wasnt answering my calls, and not letting me see my son. no replies.
I felt giving her time might be best, so I didnt call for about a month, then one day while in her town, I drove by her place, noticed that her apartment was vaccant, she'd moved out.
I didnt hear any word from her for just shy of a year, when the Sheriff stopped by to give me some papers, paternity papers that is!
I was served Restraing/No contact orders also. claiming Domestic Violence.
She had moved clear across the state, around your area Whatcom co.
I ended up puting enough $ together for a laywer, went to my hearing, and because my lawyer didnt reply to her claims of abuse in the right amount of time, they hit me with everything, and limited me to 1 hour a week supervised visitation with my son, hell, I could barely afford to go once a month.
The best thing that happened that day was the Judge agreed with me on appointing a GAL to our case, then I let that lawyer go.
I jumped though all their hoops, did as many visit as I could, put up with driving 10 - 12 hr. and not get a visit, problems with scheduling etc.
But I didnt give up, soon the GAL filed his report to the Court and I was cleared of her claims of abuse, etc. goodbye supervised visits, hello puting up with the same from mother. continued............. :D ad
 

I'm going to Court (trial for custody) on Nov. 1st, without lawyer.
I was wondering if anyone out there could clue me in on program in the court room.
different rules, what goes on
who goes first etc.
I'm just a little nervous of the unknown, Ive never played this game before.

Thanks for any help, WA Dad   :D:D

I have case filed in Whatcom Co. WA.
After the final order, PP/RS and also a Order for dispute resolution be in Whatcom Co.

 The mother of my son has moved to Stevens Co. WA. where I have lived for 20 years, she just filed Notice of relocation a few days ago.


Since the mother has moved to Stevens Co. WA. where I also live can I petition the local Court for a change of Venue, or do I have to go though Whatcom Court to bring it to Stevens Co.

WA. Dad