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Very interesting post.  I had wondered if I should shave off my 5 year goatee. I didn't do it, but the thought had crossed my mind.

I did smoke some cigs outside the courthouse, and never thought that would even matter. It didn't as far as I know cuz the Judge sided with me on my issues.

Having said that, your post is a valueable tool of the ins' & outs' of the dreaded courtroom.

Cheers

TPK

I do have visitation now including some overnites.

Judge in Orange County today said NO vaccinations. I'm not sure if this is Judge's stance on vaccines. The venue is being transferred to Ulster County and I'm guessing that Judge today wanted to let that County handle the vaccination debate.

Good news though. I will be going with wife next Tuesday to Dr for a child well check. This will be my chance to ask the Dr about vaccinations. This will be my 1st visit to Dr with child, and I intend to ask a whole lot of questions.

Thanks to everybody for taking time to give opinions on the vaccination issue.  I'll lay this to rest for now and give the forum an update when something happens with this issue.

Cheers!

TPK

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TPK

Because wife took child and left the state. As I said initially, if you want to hear my whole story go over to Soc's board and read. It's a very long complicated story.

It's not as easy as just doing it myself, if I could I would've already.

TPK

Well, some schools do allow religious and philisophical beliefs as an excuse to not vaccinate.

Those beliefs do not apply here. She is paranoid.

It's going to come down to the Judge asking the Doctor's opinion, and we all know what the doctor will suggest. This might take time, but it will be done. She'll be forced to do it if she gets custody. If I get custody it's a no brainer.

TPK

Here's the requirements for NY State for school, day care etc.

http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/immun/2370.pdf

Seems that as of today, my child would not be able to even go to day care.

Home schooling might be an option for some people, but I don't believe in it, that's just my opinion. And as dumb as my wife seems to be, I wouldn't want my child learning anything from her.

TPK

I have had the chance to speak with daughter's Dr when wife did take her there.

Doctor was very concerned about her not being vaccinated. He informed wife that this was the viral season and child is at great risk. His advice fell on deaf ears.

Wife told him "She doesn't need vaccinations because I don't take her to areas with high poverty"

I'm still scratching my head on that one.

She's also misinformed about diseases being eradicated. Yes, most are gone but  the USA is a revolving door where anybody can enter this country and spread a disease. It defies logic to think this can't happen.

Last week my wife was very ill with something (flu?) but doesn't seem to care that the child could die from getting what she has. Yes you can make informed decisions, but don't make unintelligent decisions based on being Naive.

Just look at the diseases going wild due to the Tsunami overseas. Tens of thousands could die just from the diseases.

Interestingly, there has been a lot of coverage and information about Tsunamis after what happened overseas. One of the reports I read from a scientist indicated that a Tsunami could happen on the East Coast (where I am). What happens if it does hit here and the diseases start popping up?

Reactions to vaccines appear to be the exception rather than the norm. I personally don't know anybody who ever had a bad reaction.

KAT, I'm sure if your 4 year old came down with a disease (and possibly died) that otherwise would've have been prevented by vaccines, you'd be on the other side of the fence.  I'm curious where these ant-vaccine sites get their research from (if any). I would also like to know how you determined your child suffered damages from a vaccine?

TPK

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>Can you report her, or can her doctor, for medical neglect?


My doctor called child services and they investigated her. Caseworker told me it's not a crime to not take child to dr. or not vaccinating.  I guess they're waiting for something serious to happen.

My wife lied to them about everything too.

She's just a BAD parent.

TPK

I believe my wife has some sort of mental disorder. She just was never the same person after giving birth.

It's like talking to a brick wall on the vaccinations, she's misinformed and stubborn in her ways.

I TOLD her child will need it for school, she doesn't listen.

Problem is, she thinks she's acting in child's best interests, but is unaware that her idea of best interests isn't the same as the rest of the world.

Keep the opinions coming, this is great input!

TPK

My tale of woe involving wife & 9 month old child can be found over in Soc's board, too long to rehash here.


A real bugaboo between wife & I are the child vaccinations.

I want daughter to get them, wife doesn't.

Wife's refusal has nothing to do with Religion etc.

Wife does not rely upon medical professionals for advice on this matter. In fact, wife has taken child for well checks only 2 times since birth.

Seems that wife read about the MMR-Autism research and believed it. For those who don't know about this MMR study, a UK research team found a supposed link between MMR & Autism. Study was published but later retracted so now this issue appears dead. It did however, scare a lot of parents, and preyed upon the fears of these parents.

I believe the vaccinations are SO vital to the child's health that I would never imagine not having her vaccinated. Yes there can be adverse reactions to vaccines, but they are few and far between and the risk of NOT vaccinating is greater than the risk of vaccinating. My opinion was formed by meeting with pediatricians and asking them questions about all this. I have yet to find a pediatrician who is against vaccinations.

Being that this is a child related forum, I felt this was an excellent chance to get opinions from forum members about this.


1. Please give me your general opinions on vaccinations...Pro & Con.

2. Anybody not vaccinating and for what reasons??

3. Anybody's child have a bad reaction to a shot and what was it??..and what was the outcome??

4. Anybody have to go thru court to get a child vaccinated?

5. Anybody that did go thru court and got an order to not vaccinate I'd love to hear from.....and why court ordered it.


I intend to battle this issue in court, and hope to win. Any past experiences with this issue in court with any forum member will help me.


None of my friends or family members ever resisted getting a child vaccinated. I have asked for opinions from all of them, none suggested not having child vaccinated.

My daughter is already way behind in these vaccinations. I can't imagine what I'd do if child somehow died or became permanently ill from not getting vaccines. Not to mention what I'd do to wife if this happened as well!

Insights???

Cheers!

TPK