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Dear Socrateaser / Transmission of personal information
« on: Sep 03, 2004, 03:59:30 PM »
Happy holiday Soc!

     Formaer spouse demanded the following language be included in one of the many revisions to the original JOD.  Current Language states..." all abatements will be paid to the trust account of Defendants (that is me) Attourney XXX XXX XXX .... "  

     Since that order was entered I have gone pro per.  My former attorney stipulated that he would continue to accept the checks and send payment to me once the check cleared.  

     Twice in the last three weeks, former spouse has deposited money directly into my bank account and sent me an e-mail with the details of said transaction.  Unbeliveably, she has included my account number and banking institution in the un-encripted communication.

     After the first occurance, I told former spouse and her attorney that this was unacceptable and must stop.  Since it has occurred again, obviousely she has not stopped.

     Jurisdiction is Michigan


 1) What can you suggest?

I would like to provide additinal information that I am reluctant to post in a public forum.  Do you accept e-mail?  If so to what address?

Thank you for the clear explination.  

Are the elements of worngful institutioin of a civil proceeding fundimentally the same as those of malicious prosecution?  Specifically, after having a decision in my favor in a prior case, do i need to prove lack of probable cause, malace and proximate damages?  

Dear Socrateaser / Thank you and God bless (nm)
« on: Jan 08, 2004, 07:22:00 AM »

Dear Socrateaser / Issue in my mind
« on: Jan 07, 2004, 05:19:00 PM »
The issue I am concerned with is the reliance on counsel.  In my jurisdiction this is an affirmative defense and the plaintiff has the burden of proving that all facts available to her were disclosed to counsel prior to comencing action.  

Plaintiff has retained new counsel to defend herself against the malicious prosection complaint.  If her new counsel raises this defense I am uncertain what to do.  

Plaintiff wrote a letter which clearly stated she didn't want to be involved and I was the person to contact and deal with.  She also told me to sign whatever was required to settle the claim.  These statements were witnessed.

She filed a forgery complaint against me with the bank and after reviewing the letter they said she had no claim.  She then went to the police and made the same complaint.  After they saw the letter they closed the complaint and didn't persue.  

This all happened Prior to initiating action.  I find it hard to believe that a compentent attny would take action knowing all these facts in advance.

Can you offer and advice?

Dear Socrateaser / RE: Civil law questions - long
« on: Jan 07, 2004, 11:51:48 AM »
I have the case law that states that I must prevail b4 starting a malicious prosecution suit.  Thank you.  


Can the defendant in the current case raise additional affirmative defenses at the time of the SD hearing?  In other words, If there was another affirmative  defense that was not raised in the answer to my coimplaint, is she barred from raising it at the hearing?

Dear Socrateaser / Civil law questions - long
« on: Jan 01, 2004, 06:33:18 PM »
Happy New Year Soc!


1) ABC sued me in civil court over property awarded to me in divorce judgement

2) Discovery / responsive pleadings took place.

3) Both ABC and I filed motions for SD

4) My original motion did not include a request for fees and costs but were requested in the oral arguments during SD hearing

5) Court tool matter under advisement for the reason that it did not review responsive pleadings prior to hearing

6) Court issued its opinion (see text below) and an order was entered (4/2003) denying ABC’s SD motion and granting mine.

7) My answer to the original complaint included the following prayer for releif
          Wherefore Defendant prays: a) That the court dismiss the Plaintiff’s Complaint; b) That  
          Defendant be awarded costs attorney fees and damages.

8) My original request for SD included the following prayer for relief:
          Wherefore, based on the foregoing and in reliance upon case law attached in Defendant’s
          Memorandum Breif, Defendant prays that Plaintiff’s Complaint be dismissed in its entirety
          for its failure to state a valid claim upon which relief can be granted and based on the fact
          that there are no genuine issues of material fact to be decided in the plaintiff’s favor.

9) I filed a malicious prosecution complaint against ABC in 12/2003 after prevailing in my defense against her complaint.

10) Case is in michigan

11) ABC has entered the affirmative defense listed below

12) I submitted a motion for SD in the malicious prosecution action and served it with the initial complaint.


     This claim was filed by the plaintiff, seeking to recover the entire amount of an insurance check obtained by defendant, her ex-husband, as compensation for a theft loss, which occurred during the pendency of their divorce.  The loss occurred on or about 7/dd/yyyy when radio controlled cars and related equipment was stolen from the defendant’s motor vehicle.  The divorce proceeding had been pending since 4/yyyy.
     The plaintiff, at the time worked at an insurance agency and had cancelled a homeowner’s policy with AAA and obtained another through Citizen’s insurance Company without informing the plaintiff.  At some point before the claim was paid, the plaintiff had caused the defendant’s name to be deleted from the insurance policy.  This may have been because the divorce became final on 8/dd/yyy7.

     The pleadings suggest that it is undisputed that the plaintiff had told the defendant directly on or about 7/dd/yyy that she had not interest in his claim for the theft of the cars and equipment and would not assist him in furthering the claim and suggested that he could sign whatever was required to settle the claim.  She also wrote a letter to Citizen’s Insurance Company indicating that she had no interest in the claim and did not wish to be involved.  The letter left the impression that the claim belonged solely to the defendant.  Since she referenced the claim number, it had surely been filed.

     The claim had to overcome more obstacles than a normal claim because the defendant’s name was removed from the policy before it could be processed to completion.  It appeared strange to the claim processor that the person who was pursuing the claim was not a named insured.  Apparently steps were taken to put the defendant’s name back on the policy, at least long enough so that the claim could be paid to both he and the plaintiff.  Ultimately, a draft was issued and sent to the defendant, naming both he and the plaintiff as insured.  The defendant signed both names on the back of the draft and deposited it.

     The plaintiff now disingenuously claims she is entitled to the entire amount of the draft.

     The court has reviewed the parties’ judgement for divorce which indicates that they agreed on how they were going to divide up their personal property.  There appears to be agreement that the radio controlled cars and equipment belonged to the defendant and that the plaintiff had no interest in that avocation.  By the terms of the divorce judgement, this property belonged to him.  It is reasonable to conclude that the right to recover the insurance claim for the theft of this property also belonged to him.

     The plaintiff’s statement to the defendant on or about7/dd/yyyy indicated that she recognized the insurance claim belonged to him.  Her letter dated 8/dd/yyyy to Citizens Insurance Company also supports this conclusion.  These actions lead to the conclusion that she authorized him as a joint insured to act on her behalf to process the claim so that she would not have to be involved and/or have any contact with him regarding the matter.  This authorization defeats any claim of forgery or conversion.

     The plaintiff has failed to state a claim upon which relief can be granted and her motion for summary disposition is denied.  The defendant’s motion for summary disposition is granted.

AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE (remember I am now the Plaintiff and ABC is Defendant)

1) plaintiff has failed to state a claim upon which relief can be granted

2) The applicable statute of limitations governing the claims of the plaintiff has elapsed and thus the claims of the plaintiff are barred

3) The principles of Res Judicata bar re-litigation of the issues raised in the complaint

4) Failure to file a motion pursuant to MCR2.119(f) with respect to relief granted in the referenced prior action

5) Failure to file a counter claim to the prior referenced action pursuant to MCR 2.203

6) Failure of the plaintiff to pursue costs pursuant to MCR2.625


MCL 600.5805 Pertinent Sections
(5) The period of limitations is 2 years for an action charging malicious prosecution.
(9) The period of limitations is 1 year for an action charging libel or slander.

Rule 2.119 Motion Practice – subpart (F)

(F) Motions for Rehearing or Reconsideration.
(1) Unless another rule provides a different procedure for reconsideration of a decision (see, e.g., MCR 2.604[A], 2.612), a motion for rehearing or reconsideration of the decision on a motion must be served and filed not later than 14 days after entry of an order disposing of the motion.
(2) No response to the motion may be filed, and there is no oral argument, unless the court otherwise directs.
(3) Generally, and without restricting the discretion of the court, a motion for rehearing or reconsideration which merely presents the same issues ruled on by the court, either expressly or by reasonable implication, will not be granted. The moving party must demonstrate a palpable error by which the court and the parties have been misled and show that a different disposition of the motion must result from correction of the error.

Rule 2.203 Joinder of Claims, Counterclaims, and Cross-Claims

(A) Compulsory Joinder. In a pleading that states a claim against an opposing party, the pleader must join every claim that the pleader has against that opposing party at the time of serving the pleading, if it arises out of the transaction or occurrence that is the subject matter of the action and does not require for its adjudication the presence of third parties over whom the court cannot acquire jurisdiction.

(B) Permissive Joinder. A pleader may join as either independent or alternate claims as many claims, legal or equitable, as the pleader has against an opposing party. If a claim is one previously cognizable only after another claim has been prosecuted to a conclusion, the two claims may be joined in a single action; but the court may grant relief only in accordance with the substantive rights of the parties.

(C) Counterclaim Exceeding Opposing Claim. A counterclaim may, but need not, diminish or defeat the recovery sought by the opposing party. It may claim relief exceeding in amount or different in kind from that sought in the pleading of the opposing party.

(D) Cross-Claim Against Co-Party. A pleading may state as a cross-claim a claim by one party against a co-party arising out of the transaction or occurrence that is the subject matter of the original action or of a counterclaim, or that relates to property that is the subject matter of the original action. The cross-claim may include a claim that the party against whom it is asserted is or may be liable to the cross-claimant for all or part of a claim asserted in the action against the cross-claimant.

(E) Time for Filing Counterclaim or Cross-Claim. A counterclaim or cross-claim must be filed with the answer or filed as an amendment in the manner provided by MCR 2.118. If a motion to amend to state a counterclaim or cross-claim is denied, the litigation of that claim in another action is not precluded unless the court specifies otherwise.

(F) Separate Trials; Separate Judgment. If the court orders separate trials as provided in MCR 2.505(B), judgment on a claim, counterclaim, or cross-claim may be rendered in accordance with the terms of MCR 2.604 when the court has jurisdiction to do so. The judgment may be rendered even if the claims of the opposing party have been dismissed or otherwise disposed o

MCR 2.625 – please use this link  http://courtofappeals.mijud.net/rules/public/default.asp


1) Based on my understanding, by advancing an affirmative defense, the plaintiff ABC effectively admits that my allegations are true and that she even admits that I have established my prima facie case, however, she denies that I am able to recover on my claim for other reasons.  Is this understanding correct?

2) Isn’t an affirmative defense and point #1 listed in the affirmative defenses above mutually exclusive?

3) I have quoted state statutes on statutes of limitations and I am well within the time alloted.  What is defendant referring to in her #2 point

4) Affirmative Defense points #4 through #6 all refer to actions associated with the initial case against me.  How do they / can they apply as a defense in My complaint for malicious prosecution against her.  

Dear Socrateaser / Protective Service Statements
« on: Dec 03, 2003, 05:36:04 PM »
Protective Service Case worker at conclusion of investigation made the following statement to the children.  

..... If this happens again you will be taken from this house and put into a foster house ... you will not be sent to your NCP's house....

I was not there to hear the statement ...... so i must take it at face value


1) Does this seem right to you?  

2) What insight can you offer?

Dear Socrateaser / Is This Enough?
« on: Dec 02, 2003, 07:53:27 AM »
 My son (age 12) has had 5 physical altercations with his step parent over the last 18 months.  They have been documented. Protective services have been involved in the last two instances.  One call he made himself and the second one I made.  None of the instances were severe.  Their intensity seems to be escilating.  

     When altercations have occurred I have demanded and received fromer spouses version of events.  Without fail all blame for the altercation is placed on my son.  

     My son does thrash out when his buttons are pushed.  He has addmitted to me that he has taunted hios step parrent which can lead to an intensification of the situation.

     Protective services recomended that my son receive counseling for anger subsequent to the time he phoned them.  I have documentation from the counselor that states my son confronted my former spouse over the badmouthing and critical comments directed at me.  Further, the documentation recorded confrontations between my son and former spouse over his desire to spend more time with me and former spouses refusal to permit the additional time.

     After the most recent occurance, my former spouse  e-mailed me and stated" I feel that it would be best if you came and got him for a least over the weekend if this is possible for you. ".  This was Thanksgiving weekend and was her holiday based on the existing court order.  

     I took my son back to my former spouse's house last night.  Within 40 minutes he was calling me telling me that he can come stay with me for the rest of the month (excluding the 5 days former spouse has durring Christmas Holiday).

     Extra parenting time has traditionally been like pulling teeth.
     Former Spouse has primary physical.  
     Son wants to come live with me.  I want that as well.  

     A protective services interview is scheduled at former spouses residance tomarrow.  The investigator plans a follow up telephone interview with me after that meeting.



1) Is former spouse's consent to alow my son to come here for the entire month enough to establish that a substantial change in the established custodial environment has occurred?  

2) How much information should I communicate to protective services regarding counselors documentation and my observations of interactions in former spouses house?  I want the facts layed out but I don't want to come accross the wrong way.  

3) What other advice can/will you offer regarding this matter?

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