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#221
Well sorry to say but I believe that federal law does not allow for the adjustment of child support for non-custodial parents without physical custody.  (wait it gets more confusing...)

This is a topic that I have been looking into for quite sometime.  I live in Washington state.  I think that it comes down to what your definition of is is.  

What is a custodial parent, custodian, legal custody and physical custody?  The definition as understood by the judge is what would determine the outcome.  

[a href=http://www.leg.wa.gov/RCW/index.cfm?fuseaction=section§ion=74.20.065]RCW 74.20.065[/a] deals with the wrongful deprivation of custody from the legal custodian.  Well, what is a legal custodian?  Someone with legal custody, which could be both parents, or the physical custodian?  It's a very gray area to me...but more than likely black and white to the officers of the courts.  

Also, I am curious, how was custody determined?  Was the child support set by Administrative order?  Did DSHS basically determine who the custodial parent was?  see [a href=http://www.leg.wa.gov/RCW/index.cfm?fuseaction=section§ion=26.09.285]RCW 26.09.285[/a]

The term "custody" was supposed to be changed in the last major change of child custody determination laws in the 1989 Washington State Parenting act.  Read the study regarding it and see what really happened.  see the [a href=http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/newsinfo_reports/?fa=newsinfo_reports.parent]study here.[/a]  
The author Die -n- lie (Diane Lye)  really did a good job of differentiating the difference between the court officials and the public at large.  It looks like only the public has to follow the recommendations of the 1989 Parenting Act.  

More to come...let me know what you learn.  I am gearing up for a showdown on this very issue in about 2 months.  

Although, a judge can make the determination to remove child support if there is information that was not known to the court prior to it's child suport determination.  But, unfortunately, there are no case laws that I know of in Washington state.
#223
Father's Issues / RE: I've got an idea...
Dec 11, 2003, 07:48:16 PM
Let's go back even further....

to when the children were the property of the father and the mother had to leave without the kids.  

Or...

Is that taking it a little too far?


HEY....SHE JUST HIT ME...I WANT HER THROWN IN JAIL!!!

N.O.W. let's see if she can prove that she didn't.

#224
Well sorry to say but I believe that federal law does not allow for the adjustment of child support for non-custodial parents without physical custody.  (wait it gets more confusing...)

This is a topic that I have been looking into for quite sometime.  I live in Washington state.  I think that it comes down to what your definition of is is.  

What is a custodial parent, custodian, legal custody and physical custody?  The definition as understood by the judge is what would determine the outcome.  

[a href=http://www.leg.wa.gov/RCW/index.cfm?fuseaction=section§ion=74.20.065]RCW 74.20.065[/a] deals with the wrongful deprivation of custody from the legal custodian.  Well, what is a legal custodian?  Someone with legal custody, which could be both parents, or the physical custodian?  It's a very gray area to me...but more than likely black and white to the officers of the courts.  

Also, I am curious, how was custody determined?  Was the child support set by Administrative order?  Did DSHS basically determine who the custodial parent was?  see [a href=http://www.leg.wa.gov/RCW/index.cfm?fuseaction=section§ion=26.09.285]RCW 26.09.285[/a]

The term "custody" was supposed to be changed in the last major change of child custody determination laws in the 1989 Washington State Parenting act.  Read the study regarding it and see what really happened.  see the [a href=http://www.courts.wa.gov/newsinfo/newsinfo_reports/?fa=newsinfo_reports.parent]study here.[/a]  
The author Die -n- lie (Diane Lye)  really did a good job of differentiating the difference between the court officials and the public at large.  It looks like only the public has to follow the recommendations of the 1989 Parenting Act.  

More to come...let me know what you learn.  I am gearing up for a showdown on this very issue in about 2 months.  

Although, a judge can make the determination to remove child support if there is information that was not known to the court prior to it's child suport determination.  But, unfortunately, there are no case laws that I know of in Washington state.
#225
Altria is the new name for Phillip Morris' parent company.

see:

http://www.phillipmorris.com and notice the name at the bottom of the page.  

Here is Altria's Corporate Social Responsibility page.

http://www.altria.com/media/executive_speech/03_09_02_29_KDaragan11192003.asp

And here is their page on DV

http://www.altria.com/media/03_04_03_Domestic_Violence.asp

__________________________________________________

The disinformation:

"In fact, battering by intimate partners is the leading cause of injury among women ages 15 to 44."

I think they forgot to put in "violence related" cause of injury.  They should correct their error.

__________________________________________________

I think this is where they get their information. However, I wasn't able to find supporting disinformation on their site.

http://www.caepv.org/

__________________________________________________

I don't support domestic violence in any form or fashion...but misinformation is not the way to address the issue.  
#226
Father's Issues / LOL
Dec 03, 2003, 08:59:13 AM
funny
#227
I used them when I went to the DA's office.  Make sure that you go in to the correct jurisdiction.  They will not help you if you go to the wrong one.  Take in the copies of the laws, persons involved and all pertinent information and witness info too.  

They started proceedings in my case and dropped them later.  I think that someone from my daughter's mother's family, who works for the public pretender's office, got mine tossed(temporarily).  

You take the information to the DA.  After the proceedings and findings of the criminal court, then you use the conviction, or even the arrainment information in your modification papers.  The Police only take statements and assign it to a detective, who investigates.  The District attorney may assign a detective, but if there is already enough information then they will begin proceedings in court.


#228
Father's Issues / RE: What to do?
Dec 01, 2003, 02:45:13 PM
You can go directly to the DA's office.  Take the copies of the state laws that apply and any supporting documentation and names and addresses of any witnesses.  In some states threats of bodily harm is classified as terrorists threats, such as California.  Going directly to the DA is faster than waiting for the police to act, and it may never go any further than a police report.  The DA's office can act more swiftly.  

#229
Father's Issues / RE: What to do?
Nov 29, 2003, 09:05:05 PM
Go to the Sherriff's Department again.  It's not civil, it's criminal.  Be adamant and speak to a superior.  Get action now.  Another tip, go to a women's domestic violence group and ask how they would handle it, ONLY PRETEND THAT IT IS A WOMAN WHO IS THE VICTIM.  That may help you to get some good information.
#230
May God bless you.  I'll be praying for you, too.


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