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>Brent, I usually agree with most of what you post for us but,
>once more, this country is faced with some very difficult
>choices. Please check out the link below. I got it in my email
>this morning. Sure made me think.

Like I said, I don't think Kerry is necessarily any better than Bush, but at least I know how bad Bush is. He's put this country into the toilet, and his cronies are stealing everything that isn't nailed down. We're living in a Kleptocracy, basically.

I'm sure Kerry is a slimeball, because EVERYONE who gets to the position of running for President is a slimeball by definition. I'm sure I'll be complaining about Kerry in a year if he's elected, so don't think for a moment that I admire him or believe he's a good person. I don't. But he's not Bush, and that's what it comes down to this time. Bush is without a doubt the worst President this country has ever had.

I'm voting on the ABB ticket- "Anybody But Bush". I'd vote for Satan over Bush, but he isn't running.

Do I think Kerry is any good? Nope, he's slime just like Bush, but I just can't take four more years of George Bush Jr.  Hell, I'd vote for Idi Amin over Bush, except he's dead.

Nader =  Loser.
Kerry  =  Loser.
Bush =  Loser.

Of the 3, Bush is the worst by far.

[This post originally appeared on the "Fathers Issues" message board. - SPARC Admin]

This post originally appeared on the "Fathers Issues" message board. - SPARC Admin


"A new poll says that if the election were held today, John Kerry would beat President Bush by a double digit margin. The White House is so worried about this, they're now thinking of moving up the capture of Osama Bin Laden to next month." -- Jay Leno

"President Bush says he has just one question for the American voters, 'Is the rich person you're working for better off now than they were four years ago?'" -- Jay Leno

"There was a scare in Washington when a man climbed over the White House wall and was arrested. This marks the first time a person has gotten into The White House unlawfully since President Bush." -- David Letterman

"President Bush said he was 'troubled' by gay people getting married in San Francisco. He said on important issues like this the people should make the decision, not judges. Unless of course we're choosing a president, then he prefers judges." -- Jay Leno

"This week, both John Kerry and Wesley Clark are making campaign appearance with the guys who saved their lives in Vietnam. Meanwhile, President Bush is campaigning with a guy that once took a math test for him." -- Conan O'Brien

"As you know President Bush gave his State of the Union Address, interrupted 70 times by applause and 45 times by really big words." -- Jay Leno

"The new Prime Minister of Spain has called the war in Iraq a disaster, and plans to bring his troops home as soon as possible. In fact, President Bush is so upset at Spain that he is now threatening to close down the border between Spain and the US." -- Jay Leno

"The White House has now released military documents they say prove George Bush met his requirements for the National Guard. Big deal, we've got documents that prove Al Gore won the election." -- Jay Leno

Well said!

>It was insulting to me, too.

Each to their own. I don't see what was insulting about his comment.


>He has done nothing toward contributing one drop of
>information, but stirred up a lot of bad feelings.

He's welcome to his somewhat unpopular opinions, just as anyone else here is. I don't see what he's done that's been "out of bounds", so to speak.  He raised a valid, if debatable point, and he's been civil as far as I see.


>
>BTW, there were enough NCP Mom's to start this board and find
>a need for it, so if SPARC sees this, certainly his comments
>about the board are an attempt to downplay the importance of
>women in the same sitch having a place to go and discuss it.

He's welcome to try and downplay whatever he wants. You've been here long enough to know that things don't work that way around here. He's welcome to disagree but I seriously doubt that it's going to change anything.

If this board has a purpose (and I think it does) then it doesn't matter what a particular poster thinks. As far as I know the board is staying, it will not be renamed, and that's that. If things go too far off track either myself or another moderator will come along and clean up, but so far this is a legitimate if somewhat spirited :) discussion.

>If that is not a personal attack against ALL mother's what do
>you call it?
>Sorry, I found it very offensive and felt it directed at
>mothers in general and especially Non Custodial Mother's.

Hmmmm, that's not at all how I took this comment. It didn't seem insulting to me. I think he meant that the number of NCP fathers is a huge number, and certainly larger than that of NCP moms. I have to agree.

>I wasn't talking this board being the beginning of the
>feminization, I was referring to that kind of posting.

Ah, okay, my mistake.


>Disagree on ONE issue, and you are out to get them, and
>"attacking" them.  I have seen it happen a lot.

Hmmm, I don't see it happen very much here, although I'm sure it ocurrs from time to time. SPARC is in general alot less combative than other sites, but people get tend to get defensive here just like anywhere else. In any case, the "for us or against us" mindset usually doesn't get very far here. The hardcore, anti-father feminazi types don't last long on these boards.

>After being enlightened by many regulars on this board, I am
>going to consider the source and ignore his attacks.

I have to agree with Gr8dad- I didn't see him "attacking" anyone. He disagreed with the need/reason for this board, but he did so in a calm, rational manner. I don't see anything he's done here as attacking, insulting, or causing trouble. He raised a point and I understand what he's saying, although I may not agree with it. I've seen Gr8Dads posts elewhere and he strikes me as a reasonable, balanced person overall. I don't know his story at all so I can't comment on that, but there's room enough for all of us here I think.

I have to disagree with one remark, Gr8dad- I don't see this board as the beginning of the "feminization" of SPARC. This place is for all NCPs. I do believe that NCP moms and dads have somewhat different issues as NCPs. Some are the same, but some are different. I really don't see the harm in having a board for moms without custody, and again, I don't see this asa "feminizing" SPARC. Half of all our visitors are women anyway, to ignore them seems to be unfair and part of the whole "mindset" we're fighting against- that one parent is worth "less" than the other.

Just my thoughts on this.......

>Po3 says you told everyone on here where we, (Singlemomz) are
>now.

And just where did he do that?

Try here:

The Uniform Child-Custody Jurisdiction and Enforcement Act
http://www.ncjrs.org/pdffiles1/ojjdp/189181.pdf


Legislatures Consider Replacing UCCJA With UCCJEA
http://patriot.net/~crouch/uccjea/