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They keep saying that they cannot divulge any info, that it wasn't motivated by life ins., that the circumstances of the 'incident' will curl your hair.

What IF the kids were dead before the car went in???  I know this is PURE speculation, but think about it.  They say the car went down really fast.  The only way I know it could do that is if the windows were open.  And NOW they are saying that the kids were NOT in safety seats or wearing belts.  If the windows were open and they were alive, it is VERY conceivable they could have wriggled out of the windows and gotten to the surface.

The investigators say that people won't understand the details, but look at it this way.  It's horrific enough to think those poor babies were murdered in cold blood.  But if they killed them, then sent the car down the ramp to cover it up, it's not that far-fetched to make that stretch.  Or maybe it's my over-reactive imagination.........

Brainwashing??  BS!!!!!!  It doesn't make a damn bit of difference if he did try to talk her into it, if she didn't have the decency or brains to figure out that it was WRONG (unless she's insane and there's NO evidence of that), then she's JUST as guilty.  One of the two had to come up with the plan in the first place, but they BOTH carried it out, making they EQUALLY guilty.

It goes back to the 'maintaining lifestyle' BS that alimony was based on.  Pardon me, but that's GOT to be the BIGGEST bunch of hogwash I've ever heard of.

Back when I was a kid and my dad was farming for himself, I didn't know it but we were living VERY comfortably, almost considered 'well off'.  We never lacked for anything, but my parents never overindulged us either.  Then my uncle sold the farm and Dad went to work for another farmer.  Times got hard.  Mom had to go to work also, to make ends meet.  We made do with less.

The lesson my parents taught me:  Live within your means.  If times are flush, then treat yourself once in a while, but if times are tough, then tighten your belt and work your way to better times.  But don't ever consider yourself 'entitled' to something you're not willing to work for in the first place.

These past few years, I've gotten accustomed to some things that I've never had a chance to experience.  A brand new manufactured home (I've NEVER lived anywhere that was brand new), a fifth wheel camper, snowmobiles (which I LOVE!), satellite TV, soft water, a car that's newer than 5 years, amongst other things.  But if DH and I were to divorce, do I expect HIM to keep me in the lifestyle I've gotten accustomed to?  Not anymore than he should expect it from me.  It would be tough, and I'd have to give up a LOT of things I've thoroughly enjoyed, making do with a LOT less.  But that's LIFE.

I agree with you, SPG, that kids should be raised by their parents, not by some daycare.  But there are a LOT of two-income families that have NO choice.  The economy has forced both parents into the workplace; no middle or lower class family can afford to live on one income anymore.  But when life takes unexpected turns, you MUST do whatever it takes to take care of your responsibilities.  There ISN'T a 'status quo' because the situation is now different, if the parents separate and the previous SAHM must now work.

Us kids adjusted just fine when our family's 'fortune' turned.  My sister and I helped out that much more when Mom had to work.  Because we were a family and we MADE it work.  And I'm doing everything I can to pass that on to my son.

'Special prosecutor Roger Simpson, a private attorney from Monticello, will lead the prosecution to avoid a possible conflict of interest because Hamm's mother works in the DeWitt County state's attorney's office.'

They ain't taking any chances of having a mistrial, are they now???  These people are TOAST.  The death penalty???  WoooHoooooo!  Some may consider that the easy way out for these vermin, but think about it.  It just means they will find that special place in Hell that much sooner.

Davy, if you find out anymore on this case, please post it, would you?  I am confused on the part where Massey says the case is too complicated for everyone to understand.  Just points more in the direction that there's a custody issue involved here as well.  Betcha dollars to donuts that's the case, that a custody fight had SOME bearing on it some way....

'Massey said authorities know what the motive was, but he would not provide details other than to say it did not involve life-insurance money. '

The only other motive it might be is that there is/was a custody dispute.  Sounds reasonable:  Typical PBFH, doesn't want the kids/responsibility but CERTAINLY doesn't want the father to have custody, because she'd miss out on all the wonderful CS money every month.  Maybe the dad(s) were getting TOO close to obtaining custody, tho. Typical dog in a manger, if she couldn't have them, then by God, the dads wouldn't get them either.  All speculation, tho.  Can't wait to hear what the REAL motive is.

As for the car going under so quickly, there are ways to do it.  Which is why the investigators kept trying to replicate it.  They're testing to see how long it really takes.  If there was NO one around, who knows how long they waited until they called 911????  But if they left the windows open, it would sink a LOT faster.

There is a SPECIAL place in hell waiting for the both of them.........

'There is a little problem with messing with Mother Nature. Apparently cloned offspring are STERILE. Now wouldn't it be ironic if synthetic sperm caused the same problem?'

EXACTLY!  Which is why I've recommended that all the men and children of Canada move here to the US and all the feminists move to Canada.  Eventually they will kill themselves off, what with all the in-fighting on who 'gets control'.  Then once they're gone, the men and children can move back!

Looks like they've found an 'synthetic' way to get rid of them, too!

It goes back to the 'maintaining lifestyle' BS that alimony was based on.  Pardon me, but that's GOT to be the BIGGEST bunch of hogwash I've ever heard of.

Back when I was a kid and my dad was farming for himself, I didn't know it but we were living VERY comfortably, almost considered 'well off'.  We never lacked for anything, but my parents never overindulged us either.  Then my uncle sold the farm and Dad went to work for another farmer.  Times got hard.  Mom had to go to work also, to make ends meet.  We made do with less.

The lesson my parents taught me:  Live within your means.  If times are flush, then treat yourself once in a while, but if times are tough, then tighten your belt and work your way to better times.  But don't ever consider yourself 'entitled' to something you're not willing to work for in the first place.

These past few years, I've gotten accustomed to some things that I've never had a chance to experience.  A brand new manufactured home (I've NEVER lived anywhere that was brand new), a fifth wheel camper, snowmobiles (which I LOVE!), satellite TV, soft water, a car that's newer than 5 years, amongst other things.  But if DH and I were to divorce, do I expect HIM to keep me in the lifestyle I've gotten accustomed to?  Not anymore than he should expect it from me.  It would be tough, and I'd have to give up a LOT of things I've thoroughly enjoyed, making do with a LOT less.  But that's LIFE.

I agree with you, SPG, that kids should be raised by their parents, not by some daycare.  But there are a LOT of two-income families that have NO choice.  The economy has forced both parents into the workplace; no middle or lower class family can afford to live on one income anymore.  But when life takes unexpected turns, you MUST do whatever it takes to take care of your responsibilities.  There ISN'T a 'status quo' because the situation is now different, if the parents separate and the previous SAHM must now work.

Us kids adjusted just fine when our family's 'fortune' turned.  My sister and I helped out that much more when Mom had to work.  Because we were a family and we MADE it work.  And I'm doing everything I can to pass that on to my son.

'Special prosecutor Roger Simpson, a private attorney from Monticello, will lead the prosecution to avoid a possible conflict of interest because Hamm's mother works in the DeWitt County state's attorney's office.'

They ain't taking any chances of having a mistrial, are they now???  These people are TOAST.  The death penalty???  WoooHoooooo!  Some may consider that the easy way out for these vermin, but think about it.  It just means they will find that special place in Hell that much sooner.

Davy, if you find out anymore on this case, please post it, would you?  I am confused on the part where Massey says the case is too complicated for everyone to understand.  Just points more in the direction that there's a custody issue involved here as well.  Betcha dollars to donuts that's the case, that a custody fight had SOME bearing on it some way....

'Massey said authorities know what the motive was, but he would not provide details other than to say it did not involve life-insurance money. '

The only other motive it might be is that there is/was a custody dispute.  Sounds reasonable:  Typical PBFH, doesn't want the kids/responsibility but CERTAINLY doesn't want the father to have custody, because she'd miss out on all the wonderful CS money every month.  Maybe the dad(s) were getting TOO close to obtaining custody, tho. Typical dog in a manger, if she couldn't have them, then by God, the dads wouldn't get them either.  All speculation, tho.  Can't wait to hear what the REAL motive is.

As for the car going under so quickly, there are ways to do it.  Which is why the investigators kept trying to replicate it.  They're testing to see how long it really takes.  If there was NO one around, who knows how long they waited until they called 911????  But if they left the windows open, it would sink a LOT faster.

There is a SPECIAL place in hell waiting for the both of them.........

'There is a little problem with messing with Mother Nature. Apparently cloned offspring are STERILE. Now wouldn't it be ironic if synthetic sperm caused the same problem?'

EXACTLY!  Which is why I've recommended that all the men and children of Canada move here to the US and all the feminists move to Canada.  Eventually they will kill themselves off, what with all the in-fighting on who 'gets control'.  Then once they're gone, the men and children can move back!

Looks like they've found an 'synthetic' way to get rid of them, too!

As for the church thing, contact the church directly.  If your DH tells them his daughter will be a part of it and that she wants him to attend, he just needs to know date, time, and location, there's no reason why they won't give it to you, unless PB has brainwashed EVERYONE there as well.........