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Foreign policy of the Heinz (as in John Kerry's wife) Companies

Started by joni, Oct 18, 2004, 08:07:01 AM

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StPaulieGirl

No one can survive soley on unemployment or minumum wage.  My daughter is expecting her second child. I'll call him my son in law, because they've been together for 5 years, was laid off once again.  He is a certified electrician, but he needs a higher certificate in order to be kept on once the job is finished.  The class was not available while he was on unemployment, and he couldn't find a job.

They're on public assistance, BUT they're paying for that class that is finally being offered.  Hopefully, when he gets that certificate, he'll be able to get a job that will last.  His last job was working on that new Indian Casino in Palm Springs.  When the job was finished, so was he and most of the crew.  

It is obvious that the Kerrys don't care about the little people, or their real concerns.  This is why my daughter and son in law registered to vote for the first time.  They actually watched the debates, and the general conclusion is that Kerry is full of sh!t.  My other son in law is a Democrat, and is so disgusted, that he isn't even going to vote.  I mentioned Badnarik's name, so maybe he'll check him out.

StPaulieGirl

The issue that's being discussed and debated by the men in charge is outsourcing Help Desk/programming type jobs to countries like India.

Gee, this has been going on for so long that you've forgotten about all the factories that now operate in China.  Ask people in the Midwest and the "rust belt" what happened to their factory jobs.  They are now being performed by slave laborers in camps.

It's not just IT and help desk jobs.  True, Heinz is an international company, but why can't they operate factories here?  Not everyone can or wants to be in Information Technology, but people still need a steady paycheck for an honest days work.

The other poster understands this issue quite well, as do most of us.

cathy

But Heinz DOES have operate factories here!

Again - the discussion was Kerry and his wife and the misinformation surrounding the Heinz company.

So, no, I don't think the poster understands this issue - or at least, isn't willing to discuss THIS issue.

Now - be done with it!  I know I am

StPaulieGirl

You are right on target with this post.  We need to take care of our own, and tell the rest of the world to take a hike.  Why on earth does this government encourage companies to take their factories overseas, yet not tax the hell out of foreign imports, like the rest of our "allies" do?

Our government is practicing economic suicide.  We're supposed to buy the crap that this country needs to import workers to do the work that Americans won't do?  Bullshit!  Remember when you could get a job babysitting, mowing the neighbors lawn, or delivering newspapers?  How about college girls who used to be au pairs?  Nope, not anymore.  Those have now been classified as jobs we don't do.

That's the lowest rung on the job ladder.  Let's look at manual labor.  Drive by a Home Depot, or other home improvement mega store.  Heck, drive by a city park at 6 am.  What do you see?  Licensed contractors hire these men for construction work, under the table.  Why bother keeping a payroll so the government can tax you out of business, when you can pick up day laborers and pay them half of what the going rate is?

There is a slave trade in this country.  Every once in a while a story will appear on the news about a raid.  One several years ago, produced several hundred Asian women.  They had to work off their debt by being chained to sewing machines.  The smugglers actually owned an apartment building, and was apparently modified to resemble a prison camp.  Now I would like to know who bought the garments that were produced, and where they were distributed.  That was never, to my knowledge, discussed.

This is America dammit, and I read a story more recently about female immigrants being used as sex slaves....in Maine of all places!  If I tried really, really hard, I bet I could probably find that article.  Unbelievable!  Okay, that doesn't have anything to do with economics, but still....

Back on topic, it doesn't matter what side of the fence we're on politically, we all need to make a living, and so do our kids and stepkids.  At this point in time, all  I can say is create your own home business.  Of course most small businesses fail, because you pay more to the government in one way or another, than you take in.

I'm all ears for suggestions on how to fix this.  Kerry won't.  His idea of employment is having his butler serve him his peanut butter sandwiches...

StPaulieGirl

We're talking economics.  Bush has his hands full trying to keep ME nutcases from blowing our country up.  Bush is in no way 100% responsible for the dire straits that we are in, economically.  That can be put on Jimmy Carter's doorstep.  Maybe even before him, but that's before my time.

Sure Bush could do better in regards to our economic security, but he's just a man, not a magician.  Please stop comparing Bush with Kerry.  I have problems, mainly with the border issue with Bush...however he isn't a bad person.  He cares, and you are old enough to know that he can't fix everything and make every one of us happy.

Kerry will completely bury us if he is elected.  If you think we have problems now Brent, just wait.  Do you really think that pompous wannabe gives a rats ass about what you or I care about?

Bush inherited Bill Clinton's house of cards. Imo, his biggest mistake was not firing every single Clinton employee when he took office.  

Look towards 2008.  The war in the ME is too important.  Also remember that Jacques Kerry supports worldwide interference in American business.  Also remember that there are a lot of people over there who welcome and depend on our presence.  We are responsible for a whole lot of lives....Kerry doesn't care about anyone but himself.  Ask any vet what they think about that sack of crap....

Step aside from your everyday problems, which are just as crucial as everyone else's, and consider that we do not live in a vacuum.

I probably didn't change your mind  :(

StPaulieGirl

I have to agree that Bush should be taking a stronger stance on our economic concerns.  The core economic base has been bled out of our country for generations, and we need a president who will stand up and say, ENOUGH.

You and I both know that it isn't that simple.  

The WMD's are in Syria.  Saddamn had 12 years to hide this stuff while the UN was buying him time.  What the lamestream media hasn't told you is that they mixed up regular missles, with ones that had biological warheads.  Unmarked.  We found out the hard way.  

Speaking of the UN, are you keeping up with the "oil for food scandal"?  Kofi Annan could put Bugsy Siegal to shame.  So could France, Germany, and Russia.  Screw them!  They helped Saddam liquidate an entire generation.  That's not even considering the mass graves that are still being dug up today.  Iraq is nothing but one big graveyard.  Do we let people like that kill, torture, and maim our fellow  brothers and sisters?

Losing someone is unthinkable, especially when that person is serving overseas.  I'm sorry that you've lost family and friends in this war.  Last year, I saw a picture that was posted, and it was of a children's prison that had been liberated.  My little one saw it, and stated that she wanted to join the Army when she grew up.  Btw, she's doing great.  Pretty soon she can use a 3 legged cane :)  She knows instinctively that we need to protect those that need protection.  If we don't do it now, we will be letting ourselves in for another 9/11.  No lie.  They're out to destroy Western Civilization.  I have no worries whatsoever about her joining the military.  Only God knows the hour and the day.  She could get nailed at the neighborhood liquor store, buying an ice cream bar.