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Title: part time job
Post by: I cry_ in_the_dark on Jan 16, 2004, 01:18:22 AM
I currently work full time, and have been ordered to pay child support. If I take on a part time job, would they figure that into what I have to pay for  support as well?
Title: RE: part time job
Post by: sweetnsad on Jan 16, 2004, 04:06:02 AM
I believe they can, but hopefully someone who knows for sure can answer this...
Title: YES - all income of NCP is used to calculate CS
Post by: MKx2 on Jan 16, 2004, 04:21:32 AM
I believe that there are a "few" things that may not be counted as "income" for CS calculations, that IRS considers income, but any employment income WILL be considered.

Stinks.
Title: RE: part time job
Post by: Wishing on Jan 16, 2004, 05:28:42 AM
The key on this is if they are made aware of the PT job. Don't get me wrong here, I do fully believe and support the child support guidelines although do question the formula based on the history of its origin. I make $60k a year and pay $12k for my two sons.

I picked up a PT job for a short while after the CS was established. I did it to help pay off my legal bills. Unless your ex or the Court is made aware of the additional income, no one knows. Plus I believe most States require at least a 20-25% differential in CS before it is even entertained.

Good luck.
Title: RE: part time job
Post by: hisliltulip on Jan 16, 2004, 10:56:52 AM
When I asked my CS worker if they were going to figure in my ex's part-time income, she said no.  They only do if the NCP is working two (or more) part-time positions.

My ex works full-time for bills and part-time for extra stuff.

I wanted to make sure, because I had promised him I wouldn't touch his second job income.

Have a friend call your CS division and ask.

BETH
Title: RE: part time job
Post by: reagantrooper on Jan 16, 2004, 11:34:37 AM
 "Don't get me wrong here, I do fully believe and support the child support guidelines "

YOU ARE KIDDING RIGHT???
Title: RE: part time job
Post by: Wishing on Jan 16, 2004, 11:43:09 AM
I guess I should have said I do fully support child support - not necessarily the guidelines. As it is what it is, I can't do much about it. Believe me, pulling $60 and after $12 in CS I'm left with $2,000 a month to live on and that is ridiculuos - but again - it is what it is.

I do take issue with how the original CS guidelines were developed. The history on that leaves one wondering just how they could have arrived at such a faulty guideline. There is little to no basis given for the father's living situation. That is where I find extreme fault.

Until those guidelines are changed, I can do little about it. It used to eat me up inside but justified anger left little else.

Title: RE: part time job
Post by: I cry_ in_the_dark on Jan 16, 2004, 01:48:02 PM
Be thankful, I'm left with approximately 600 dollars a month. That's my rent and my gas(heat) bill.

So what you are saying is, if I go to work part time in addition to my full time job to pay my bills...they are going to take that too?

Good GAWD!!!
Title: RE: part time job
Post by: Peanutsdad on Jan 16, 2004, 05:03:38 PM
In texas, if you have cs set on your income, then start working overtime or take a second job,
The ex finds out, and can go back and get a increase. ALL moneys are considered when figuring cs here. So, it doesnt help you at all to work more,, in fact, you get penalized, because,,, if you quit the second job, its unlikely you will get a reduction since the attorney generals office will claim you are voluntarily underemployed.
Title: Here's a Tip
Post by: mustang292 on Jan 17, 2004, 05:32:03 PM
    Learn how to sell on E-Bay. I have learned how to make extra money on E-Bay very quickly to try and pay lawyer's fees.  You get to stay home and spend more time with your child when you have him/her and it's like a yardsale so you don't have to pay taxes or even claim it as income so the state can't touch you unless you open your mouth and tell everybody.  IF your ex has main custody then it's your ex who she be the main financial supporter!
Title: RE: Here's a Tip
Post by: I cry_ in_the_dark on Jan 18, 2004, 02:07:15 AM
Thanks, I sent you an email.
Title: RE: part time job
Post by: tryn2begooddad on Jan 20, 2004, 11:44:05 AM
Here in CT they use all income from employment to figure CS.. If you get a part time job and have a very vindictive PBFH then count on yourself being taken back to help get the kids what is rightfully theirs. One suggestion do like I did get a job as a bartender where you make next to nothing in booked salary but can make up for it in cash tips..it is a way to increase income without really markedly changing your income..just a thought
Title: RE: part time job
Post by: I cry_ in_the_dark on Jan 20, 2004, 12:11:54 PM
Thanks......years ago I bartended.......maybe I will again.
Title: RE: part time job
Post by: oklahoma on Jan 21, 2004, 10:09:51 AM
My understanding, as others have written, is that ALL income is included.  My husband is a student and CSE also included his financial aid in calculating CS... and that is something that no one else (i.e. the IRS, etc.) considers "income."

Title: Yep, or consider
Post by: VeronicaGia on Jan 21, 2004, 11:19:26 AM
 a job as a waiter/waitress at a bar or restaurant.  Some bars will pay you solely under the table....
Title: RE: part time job
Post by: norma on Jan 21, 2004, 04:07:03 PM
Once the support amount is established in an order, it would only be changed if there is a substantial change in circumstances and the custodial parent files a petition stating the change in circumstance requires an increase in support. If your ex is still making the same amount of money, you will not be ordered to pay more.
Title: RE: every state is different and you need to check guidelines
Post by: rini on Jan 23, 2004, 11:34:43 PM
hi

i knkow of at least 3 states that the guidelines will only use extra job in certain cercumstances

check your state guidelines unfortunately i cant remember what states these were.  

some state that anything over 40-hours a week would not effect the order but most will .

there are also some states that allow you to work an extra job if you have more kids and want  to earn extra to support the new children. they will not calculate the extra job in to the support for previous kids.

if you feel like posting the state i will take a look for you but that also depends on how easy your state guidelines are to get into and to read  but happy to give it a shot..

rini
Title: RE: part time job
Post by: wendl on Jan 24, 2004, 12:14:13 AM
they can increase it due to more income, they can increase it if you work overtime or get bonuses it sucks the ncp cant get ahead, dh no longer works overtime cuz its not worht it.