So, here we are embarking on our first billboard campaign. Before we even have the first billboard up we are getting threat messages from people saying they will "find" us, they will tear down the boards, or they will sue us. We got a message from an AOL user that she is going to sue us if we put up any billboards. She has been victimized by an abusive husband for years, and our company, HelpStopPAS.com, is "condoning that kind of behavior".
These women are hysterical. Why? Why do some women think that PAS is a personal attack against them? Why are some people so unwilling to think of others, especially their kids?
Is it that when someone is caught doing something wrong they automatically strike back at the accuser?
So now what? Do we call the FBI? Ignore them? Refer them to a qualified psychotherapist in their area? (lol)
Your opinions would be helpful.
Judy
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post this on the Dear Socrateaser board, Soc is an attorney.
I'm curious
Post some of the HATE email.
Sort of funny, like ironic funny, that PAS is about control, Hate and just being self-centered. And Woman are calling in Hate threats about PAS,,, a condition they are sort of displaying in their response(s).
Anyway,,, please post the top 3 best.
Sounds to me like NOW, has found you. Could someone be scared that things are finally coming out?
Let them do what they want, if things happen, cover your butts and file charges if need be. Destruction of property, that sort of thing.
Progress is being made, step by step.
"Children learn what they live"
I love what you guys are doing w/PAS. Women (and men) who are responsible for having to coin a term like that like to be the victim. It's their only standpoint.
Do you know after SEVEN years of fighting for his daughter, the very day my husband got custody, his ex filed a protective order, stating he threatened to kill her three months prior to that and he was abusive during the marriage that ended four years prior to that!! She of course didn't forget to file for child support that day too.
It was unbelieveable. Here we were, reeling from finally having custody awarded to him (rightfully so but too long to post here) with PAS a huge factor in the case and when we get home on our door is a protective order. Not shocking since she had filed several of them before (including against me when I got her daughter a haircut) but nonetheless, a perfect example of a woman who knows no stops.
Good for you and just follow the law and keep going. In DC, near where I live, there is a law that they have to donate a certain amount of billboard space in their subways to non profit, no matter who they are. It really bit them in the butt when a pro-marijuana reform campaign took advantage of it but they could do nothing to stop them. Consider what laws are applicable in your neck of the woods, classify yourself with the govt as non-profit, adopt a board of directors and have at it!!
Best Wishes
KC
Wonder if it would possible to have smaller signs people could put out in their private yards. It would make a statement, with out all the bullshit. Like people do with elections.
I would be proud to display billboard or sign.
"Children learn what they live"
I emailed the group and offered to sponsor a bill board in my area.
Choices:
1. Bolivar, OH
2. New Philadelphia, OH
3. Dover, OH
4. Canton, OH
I never heard back from them. Apparently the bill board distributor doesn't have billboards available in my are.
LOL - I'm not sure my neighbors would go with the idea of a bill board in my yard.
Check your local yard sign ordinances particulaly to size and the maximum number of yard signs allowed at one time. If only one sign is allowed at the same time then signs could be rotated on a weekly basis. The signs could read : Stop Parental Alienation - Support Shared Parenting - Stop Judical Abuse - End of NOW is now - Help prevent Erectile Dysfunction - etc etc
You may garnish some local news reporting and be an interest to the neighbor !!!
>I emailed the group and offered to sponsor a bill board in my
>area.
>
>Choices:
>1. Bolivar, OH
>2. New Philadelphia, OH
>3. Dover, OH
>4. Canton, OH
>
>I never heard back from them. Apparently the bill board
>distributor doesn't have billboards available in my are.
>
>LOL - I'm not sure my neighbors would go with the idea of a
>bill board in my yard.
>
There is a list of available cities on the Help Stop PAS message board. The cities available in OH are:
OH:
Akron
Canton
Cleveland
Columbus
If you would like to sponsor a billboard just e-mail admin and they'll get you going. You could have a billboard up in Canton within three weeks!
>I'm curious
>
>Post some of the HATE email.
>
>Sort of funny, like ironic funny, that PAS is about control,
>Hate and just being self-centered. And Woman are calling in
>Hate threats about PAS,,, a condition they are sort of
>displaying in their response(s).
>
>Anyway,,, please post the top 3 best.
>
Unfortunately I deleted them. One was from some person at a yahoo group called Family Court Reform. The other was from an anonymous e-mail address (how do people do that?). Basically, they threatened to sue us. They said they had looked into our articles of incorporation and found the addresses of all of our directors and officers. They said that we needed to "cease and desist" or they would take action against us. Mind you they didn't specify legal action, just action.
I guess we're really starting to make some people worried. Maybe it's a good thing?
If I get anymore I will certainly post them for your viewing pleasure. lol
I was thinking along the lines of the small signs, 12x18 inches that people put in their yards to support a canidate. That should not be offensive to anyone.
But billboards would draw much more attention.
No matter how it is done, getting the word out...
I know they have bumperstickers available too.
"Children learn what they live"
Never under estimate the the power of stupid people in large numbers. Thats pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter.
People seem to have such screwed up ideas anymore it amazes me. As an example, recently a few local Wal-Mart employees here in Evansville, IN were facing FELONY charges stemming for an incident where the shot a stray cat which had become a nusiance behind the Wal-Mart. The day these men went to court to see if they were going to be charged with Felonys or not a gay and lesbian group and an abortion group were protesting outside the courthouse. What in the hell do abortionist and gays and lesbian have at all to do with this situation? No a damn thing they were jsut beign ignorant much like this lady you mention above. She was a victim of violence so what is she going to do, be violent against someone else....it is ignorant. It is stuff just like this that makes me think that we really screwed up by making the world such a "safe" place to live. Consider if you will that natural selection or survival of the fitest would have a long time ago bred out such idiots had we left it well enough alone, but with the societ y we have created we have in essence doomed ourselves by allowing these idiots not only to survive but to reproduce.
Bottom line Judy, no matter WHAT you do there are going to be people like this lady that can help but try to screw stuff up. If you let them intimidate you, nothing would everr get done. I say notify the FBI, and other law organizations and then practice your first ammendment rights and psot the billboards...you might consider using this "bad press" as a way for getting more media attention for our cause. If the news media knew that there were threats coming from feminist anti viloence organizations it could make for some good press for us. Kind like when a "pro-life" anti-abortionist decided to bomb an abortion clinic or doctors house. They say" I'm pro-life, but I'll kill you if you don't do as I say!"
Let us know what happens....
Sincerely,
Chris Alexander
The first two billboards go up in Houston on Monday. I'll let you know if I hear anything else from these people.
Thanks for the advice.
Judy
OK,
Here is one that I received after replying to an e-mail that this woman sent me ..... Can you say psycho?
From: Lola Telmos
Date: Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:54 pm
Subject: Re: P.A.S. supporters R unstable Emotional Terrorist
Just like I said UNSTABLE EMOTIONAL TERRORIST. Cease & desist you moron , take your medication .Your Junk Science back fired , who cares about the tittle. Junk Science has no degree level duh ! Place guards at my door , just like abusers to in prison someone . Cease & desist moron . Like a child we will attack .Don't e-mail me any more , I don't care what you Think .Your mental state shows me I need to protect my self from you ! Cease & desist . Lola Telmos