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Poll
Question: Would you support a rebuttable legal presumption in favour of contact?
Option 1: Yes votes: 2
Option 2: No votes: 0
Title: Would you support a rebuttable legal presumption in favour of contact?
Post by: grahamg on Jun 25, 2007, 03:54:54 AM
Dear All,

I am new to this forum and was recommended to come here by a forum member calling herself MixedBag who has kindly supported my poll/petition elsewhere.

I've come here simply to put forward my question to you, the full version of which is:-

Where there is no question of abuse would you support a rebuttable legal presumption in favour of contact between parents and their children?

Please give me your view on the question I've raised, even if you feel a little unsure about the wording of it. It is the overall opinion of members towards giving parents, particularly non-custodial parents, more rights that I'm trying to assess.  

Many thanks for your consideration.

Very best regards,
Graham
Title: RE: Would you support a rebuttable legal presumption in favour of contact?
Post by: mistoffolees on Jun 25, 2007, 06:38:02 AM
I would support it, but there's a problem -- it all comes down to individual judges. In my state, there's a legal presumption of Joint legal and physical custody, but a few judges still side dramatically with the mother. (Other judges are just plain irrational and even the attorneys who see them all the time can't predict what they might do).

My suggestion would be for wording to make it easier to challenge unfair violation of this presumption.
Title: RE: Would you support a rebuttable legal presumption in favour of contact?
Post by: Jade on Jun 25, 2007, 06:39:41 PM
>Dear All,
>
>I am new to this forum and was recommended to come here by a
>forum member calling herself MixedBag who has kindly supported
>my poll/petition elsewhere.
>
>I've come here simply to put forward my question to you, the
>full version of which is:-
>
>Where there is no question of abuse would you support a
>rebuttable legal presumption in favour of contact between
>parents and their children?
>
>Please give me your view on the question I've raised, even if
>you feel a little unsure about the wording of it. It is the
>overall opinion of members towards giving parents,
>particularly non-custodial parents, more rights that I'm
>trying to assess.  
>
>Many thanks for your consideration.
>
>Very best regards,
>Graham

Just exactly what are you asking?  If it is presumed 50/50 physical custody, my answer would be no.  It doesn't take the individual child into consideration.  If it is that the other parent can call the child when with the other parent (if that makes sense), then my answer would be yes.  Along with both parents having access to school records, health records, etc...


Title: RE: Would you support a rebuttable legal presumption in favour of contact?
Post by: grahamg on Jun 26, 2007, 12:13:53 AM
Jade wrote:
"Just exactly what are you asking? If it is presumed 50/50 physical custody, my answer would be no. It doesn't take the individual child into consideration. If it is that the other parent can call the child when with the other parent (if that makes sense), then my answer would be yes. Along with both parents having access to school records, health records, etc... "

Dear Jade,

Thank you for your interest in my petition.

My meaning of "contact" is closer to the latter description of contact you've given here, but would also include direct contact or parenting time spent with your child.

I hope that you are still in favour of my petition on that basis.

Very best regards, Graham
Title: RE: Link to website for presumption in favour of contact?
Post by: grahamg on Jun 30, 2007, 10:13:53 PM
Dear All,

Here is a link to the UK government website, should you wish to sign my petition.

Please be generous and sign it if you feel at all able to, as it may make a difference to someone and will not do harm in my view.

Very best regards and wishes, Graham


Your petition has been approved by the Number 10 web team, and
     is now available on the Number 10 website at the following
     address:

     http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Parental-rights/

     Your petition reads:

     We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Create a
     rebuttable legal presumption in favour of contact between
     parents and their children where there is no question of abuse

     The best interests of the child it has been argued, is to deny
     even decent parents a legal right to contact with them. We want
     to confront that assumption, which does seem intuitively
     incorrect doesn't it, as most parents surely seek to protect
     their child and seek their wellbeing too. Parents failing to
     agree on contact arrangements creates a situation where one or
     other of them can have their role in the child's life
     jeopardised at any time without any fault on their part. We
     believe that parents have legitimate interests that should be
     considered regarding their children, and they should not be
     made to suffer exclusion from their lives where this can be
     avoided.

     Thanks for submitting your petition.

     -- the ePetitions team
Title: RE: Link to website for presumption in favour of contact?
Post by: mistoffolees on Jul 01, 2007, 09:29:42 AM
Unfortunately, it's for UK residents only so I can't sign, but good luck anyway.
Title: RE: Link to website for presumption in favour of contact?
Post by: grahamg on Jul 03, 2007, 01:26:23 AM
That's a shame but many thanks for your support.

Any expats out there?

Graham
Title: for folks in the UK
Post by: MixedBag on Jul 03, 2007, 04:46:33 AM
check the link out in the earlier post