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Title: Wally World...(Walmart)...boys and rocks..
Post by: FatherTime on Jan 23, 2004, 03:10:10 PM
Check it out...

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2485560&sourceid=1500000000000000040820
Title: RE: UGH!
Post by: Indigo Mom on Jan 23, 2004, 03:16:23 PM
Did you read the description?  GAWD!!!

How walmart could stoop this low is beyond me...I've been ticked off at them for quite some time, now it's official...I'm boycotting them, too.  Well, mebbe I'll go there tomorrow and see if I can find this slop...then cause a big stink.  


Where do we write, FatherTime?  
Title: RE: Write or call Walmart pages...
Post by: FatherTime on Jan 23, 2004, 03:55:28 PM
[h3]Walmart stores:[/h3]
[a href=http://www.walmart.com/catalog/catalog.gsp?cat=121283]Click Here to open the webpage.[/a]
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[h3]Walmart Website customer service:[/h3]
[a href=http://www.walmart.com/catalog/catalog.gsp?cat=121268]Click Here to open the webpage.[/a]
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I thought that the part of actual encouragement of aiming well was truly uncalled for.  

[h4]"Remember girls, slingshots are dangerous, so aim well!"[/h4]

I think that Walmart has better PR people than Claire's.  I bet that they will pull these items fairly quickly.  But, we'll just have to wait and see.

Don't forget to point out that by Walmart supporting DavidandGoliathtees.com they are supporting a company that ridicules children with special needs as well.  Check out the david and goliath tees website and check under r-rated.  It is the short bus "joke" if you want to call it that. [a href=http://www.davidandgoliathtees.com/new/lines/default.asp?category_id=6&page=5]Click here to see it.[/a]
Title: RE: dagnabbit!
Post by: Indigo Mom on Jan 23, 2004, 04:29:50 PM
I spent all that time searching and you've beaten me...LOL

But, for those of us who are lazy and don't want to visit walmarts website...



Letters to the president....    [email protected]

Corporate Affairs - [email protected]

Wal-Mart Online - [email protected]

Customer Service for Wal-Mart's online shopping *You may also call ustoll-free at 1-800-WMONLINE

General Complaints to Wal-Mart: 1-800-WAL-MART



And FatherTime, I'd rather not look at that webpage anymore.  My poor throat can only take so many "harf" episodes before it gets raw...ya know?

I have a feeling both walmart and walmart.com will pull them with enough complaints.  After all, look at their webpages, all about equality, fairness, and children!!!





Title: RE: dagnabbit!
Post by: Indigo Mom on Jan 23, 2004, 04:29:54 PM
I spent all that time searching and you've beaten me...LOL

But, for those of us who are lazy and don't want to visit walmarts website...



Letters to the president....    [email protected]

Corporate Affairs - [email protected]

Wal-Mart Online - [email protected]

Customer Service for Wal-Mart's online shopping *You may also call ustoll-free at 1-800-WMONLINE

General Complaints to Wal-Mart: 1-800-WAL-MART



And FatherTime, I'd rather not look at that webpage anymore.  My poor throat can only take so many "harf" episodes before it gets raw...ya know?

I have a feeling both walmart and walmart.com will pull them with enough complaints.  After all, look at their webpages, all about equality, fairness, and children!!!





Title: RE: Wally World...(Walmart)...boys and rocks..
Post by: StPaulieGirl on Jan 23, 2004, 05:15:33 PM
Based on the best-selling stickers and T-shirts by the hip and wacky clothing/accessory company david & goliath, this book is sure to be a hit with females everywhere. Remember girls, slingshots are dangerous, so aim well!

[p]Wacky.  Okay.  Walmart needs to get over themselves.  They sell Chinese slave labor merchandise, they ruin competitors, but heeeey they're all American.  Hmmm, would this be a good time to mention that they wouldn't stock Marilyn Manson or Nine Inch Nails CD's, but it's ok to throw rocks at boys?  The author has another lovely book, apparently (hopefully just)trashing Hello Kitty.  

[p]Please forgive me, but I've been boycotting Walmart for years.  There are plenty of cheap places to go to find what I want.

[p]Ideas on contacting the American superstore Antichrist?
Title: RE: Write or call Walmart pages...
Post by: StPaulieGirl on Jan 23, 2004, 05:38:35 PM
Bunch of crap...they demanded a valid telephone number.  They didn't specify a valid area code :-)

A friend notified me that your stores stock the book, "Boys are Stupid..Throw Rocks at Them".  Are you also stocking the rest of the merchandise?   I am well aware that Tilly's and Bon Macy's cater to a different demographic, but once they were made aware of the problem with this merchandise, they promptly pulled them off the shelves.

I hope Walmart will continue to be a family friendly company, and do the same.  We don't need any more hatred in our society.

Sincerely,
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Considering how much I despise this company, I thought it was pretty low key.
Title: RE: Wally World...(Walmart)...boys and rocks..
Post by: MYSONSDAD on Jan 23, 2004, 08:54:42 PM
This is all really starting to get to me.

I think the target here is to go right to the throat of the David and Goliath production.

There has to be some way of filing a complaint with an attorney general or something. It has to be nation wide.

This company has to go down. HARD.
Title: My first letter sent....
Post by: Astro on Jan 23, 2004, 11:15:57 PM
I sent this by email and will be sending by USPS also--any suggestions?  Is it too nice? Not nice enough?  Not enough points made?
I'll edit it and forward....
_____________________________________________________
Today I was browsing your site and came across an item that you are selling that frankly offended me.  It is the book you'll be selling named "Boys are Stupid:  Throw Rocks at Them" by the manufacturer David & Goliath.

This piqued my curiosity as to why you would promote violence against children and so I decided to investigate your company "message" and that of David & Goliath's.

You espouse Sam Walton's 3 Basic Beliefs:  Respect the Individual, Service to the Customer, and Strive for Excellence.  How selling a product that tells girls to hate boys will show respect to ANY individual is beyond me--perhaps you could explain it to me.  In my opinion you are doing a disservice to your customers and if this is the Excellence you strive for then the innovation to push the boundaries has truly been achieved.  You have exceeded MY boundaries.

If I were to propose to you my hypothetical books and products embracing violence towards girls would you buy and sell it?  Think about it--"Girls are Sissies: Pull Their Hair!", "Girls are Braindead: Ban them from School", "Cook, Clean, Make Babies".  

Offensive?  You bet it is.  But absolutely no different than David & Goliath's product line--only it is aimed at boys.  This humor at an adult level is one thing, but this humor aimed at children is quite another.  For you to have now become a part of this thinking is indefensible, and you have now lost my patronage.

I have literally spent tens of thousands of dollars in your stores--but I will continue no longer.  My friends and colleagues (almost all mothers and fathers) will certainly hear of your new core beliefs--and if but a few heed me they too will think twice.

Please reconsider your relationship with this company.  They make money by advocating violence.  By selling this product of theirs you are too.  
Title: RE: Write or call Walmart pages...
Post by: Brent on Jan 24, 2004, 07:18:12 AM

>I thought that the part of actual encouragement of aiming well
>was truly uncalled for.  

Yes, that was the topper.

I called and spoke to a Walmart rep. I was indignant as hell, and the rep was rather mortified that this book was being sold by Walmart that supposedly has such strong "family values". She gave me the main customer contact number:

1-800-WALMART (1-800-925-6278)
Use the option for Lee Scott's office (option 3, I think)

Tell them you've already spoken to the people who handle the website. Ask them why a company that claims to be "family friendly" would sell merchandise that promotes violence against children. Tell them, like I did, that Walmart has seen the last of my money, and that no one from my family will ever shop at Walmart again.

They will tell you that they need to send this to the purchasing department and that you'll hear back from someone in 2 business days. Give them a phone number and an address, and lets see what happens.

Title: URGGHHHH! AND I WORK THERE!
Post by: wallyworld85 on Jan 24, 2004, 07:24:55 AM
As most of you know, hence my user name, I work there.  I am actually loss prevention.  I can say that as soon as Wal Mart gets enough letters, or bad press, they would most definetly get rid of them.  I actually cannot believe that Wallyworld has them!  Really they are pretty politically correct.
Title: RE: Wally World...(Walmart)...boys and rocks..
Post by: sweetnsad on Jan 24, 2004, 07:55:19 AM
Oh my God...can you believe even WALMART has stooped this low???
Title: I thought that you worked there. (eom)
Post by: FatherTime on Jan 24, 2004, 10:15:23 AM
:+
Title: Excellent ...
Post by: Rakkasan on Jan 24, 2004, 04:59:44 PM
... and if it wasn't that I stopped shopping there long long ago I would surely stop after having read your letter to Wal-mart.  
Title: I sent a slightly modified version of...
Post by: Rakkasan on Jan 24, 2004, 05:42:25 PM
...Astro's letter (shown below) to all of the business writers for the our local papers. In worded the subject line as follows: Wal-mart and David & Goliath - a new low for business What do you think?

[em]Today I was browsing Wal-Marts site and came across an item that they are selling that frankly offended me. It is the book they are selling named "Boys are Stupid: Throw Rocks at Them" by the manufacturer David & Goliath.

This piqued my curiosity as to why they would promote violence against children and so I decided to investigate your company "message" and that of David & Goliath's.

Wal-mart espouses Sam Walton's 3 Basic Beliefs: Respect the Individual, Service to the Customer, and Strive for Excellence. How selling a product that tells girls to hate boys will show respect to ANY individual is beyond me--perhaps someone could explain it to me, if this is the Excellence they strive for, then the innovation to push the boundaries has truly been achieved. Wal-mart has certainly exceeded MY boundaries.

I wonder of I were to propose to them hypothetical books and products embracing violence towards girls if would they buy and sell them? Think about it--"Girls are Sissies: Pull Their Hair!", "Girls are Braindead: Ban them from School", "Cook, Clean, Make Babies".

Offensive? You bet it is. But absolutely no different than the David & Goliath's product line--only it is aimed at boys. This humor at an adult level is one thing, but this humor aimed at children is quite another. For them to have now become a part of this thinking is indefensible, and they have now lost my patronage.

I have literally spent thousands of dollars in their stores--but I will continue no longer. My friends and colleagues (almost all mothers and fathers) will certainly hear of these new core beliefs--and if but a few heed me they too will think twice.

Please consider investigating this story yourself and writing an article about these two companies. They are making money by advocating violence against children.
[/em]
Title: How about this....
Post by: FatherTime on Jan 24, 2004, 10:51:32 PM
Walmart is stupid...throw reporters at them.

Remember concerned parents, Bad Press is dangerous, So inform the press quickly.


Title: RE: How about this....
Post by: StPaulieGirl on Jan 25, 2004, 09:24:15 AM
Lolol!  Walmart has been getting their share of bad press lately.  Btw, got a reply to my email to them saying that they were forwarding it to their retail division.   I should be hearing from them in 4 business days.
Title: RE: dagnabbit!
Post by: NoNicky on Jan 26, 2004, 07:26:02 AM
Here's something interesting for you.  I just got the chance to write my letters.  Those e-mail addresses are no longer valid and the mail gets returned.  Too many letters?

NoNicky
For God has not given a spirit of fear; but of power and of love and of a sound mind.  1 Peter 1:6
Title: THEY DROPPED THE BOOK!!!!
Post by: FatherTime on Feb 04, 2004, 10:41:44 AM
sorry (shhhh)

I went back to check and see if they still sold the book at Walmart.
They dropped it.  Check it out....

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2485560&sourceid=1500000000000000040820
Title: RE: THEY DROPPED THE BOOK!!!!
Post by: NoNicky on Feb 04, 2004, 10:50:28 AM
They actually called me.  Surprised the heck out of me.  They wanted to hear my complaint first hand and get my opinion.  

NoNicky
For God has not given a spirit of fear; but of power and of love and of a sound mind.  1 Peter 1:6
Title: RE: THEY DROPPED THE BOOK!!!!
Post by: MYSONSDAD on Feb 04, 2004, 11:16:18 AM
I find this very refreshing...

Title: RE: THEY DROPPED THE BOOK!!!!
Post by: StPaulieGirl on Feb 04, 2004, 12:43:41 PM
Hahahahaa!  Right on!
Title: RE: THEY DROPPED THE BOOK!!!!
Post by: NoNicky on Feb 04, 2004, 12:47:01 PM
It was refreshing and the Wal-Mart employee I spoke with was not familiar with the campaign or David and Goliath products.  While I was on the phone with her I talked her through to the site and she was appalled.  She was joining the fight to get the products removed as well!  I gave her directions to Glenn Saks site to get her involved.

It was great.

NoNicky
For God has not given a spirit of fear; but of power and of love and of a sound mind.  1 Peter 1:6