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Congrats doesnt' seem to say enough!!  Congrats is when our graduate high school and college but when you win custody of inocent children who deserve to have a fighting chance in life congrats just doesn't say enough so awesome is my word and the utmost BEST WISHES for you and your family!!  My hubby NCP of 2- CP of 1 and myself as CP of 1 understand the feat that you just accomplished!  I hope to be able to say soon that we won too, were fighting for his NCP 2 from a mother who absoulutely does PAS and have a forensic pyschologist ready to testify to prove that!!  YEA!!  so enjoy and you have given me new hope to keep fighting!!!

DevotedStepmom

Wow, I'm so sorry to hear what had happened.  How did your court hearing go???  Is everything ok, I just started reading this forum and I'm floored at what I read,  my heart breaks for the child and you as the mother!

Sincerely
DevotedStepmom

Father NCP files for custody after learning that 8yr old abuses & mother never i..."


           I'm hoping that someone can help us with suggestion on were we go from here?!?! Two weeks ago on Dec 9 my 14yr old stepdaughter(who lives with us) informed her father and I that her little brother had been sexually assualted by his mother's neighbor over 8 months ago. The suspect was arressted and is awiating trial, but the mother (custodial parent) never informed us, matter fact she instructed the children to NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES do they tell their father or I. At the time of the incident the children were living in the state that we riside in but over the summer the mother asked if her and the 2 children (15 yr old daughter and 8 yr old son) could move and get a fresh start away from her current husband (which she also has a child with). The intention was that she was to move in her family home rent free and get on her feet finacially by getting a job that was over 4 months ago and still no job and the current husband has been there to "visit" 6 times in 4 months. Since learning of the sexual assault we have also learned of some Domestic Violence that occured between the mother and current husband. So, we have filed for an emergency motion to grant us temporary custody but we haven't heard anything from the courts as of yet! UGH!! It the holidays and were suppose to put these children back on a plane on Thursday and she is threatening to have us arrested for kidnaping if they don't return on Thursday... Did I forget to mention that the 8yr has never been in ANY counseling for the assualt and is due to testify in 3-4 wks via videotape and then possibly on the stand if the videotape isn't allowed. The mother has no issue with putting this very young child on the stand and furthermore has continued to distroy this child security and safety with his father because she has told him that if we get custody that we will never let him see her... He has requestd not to speak to her because she make him upset which we said that was fine! So in closing what do we do?????

Very scared and worried I love my stepson and don't want him to go through this anymore then he has too!!!

Sincerely,
DevotedStepmom

 

Why is it in 19th court????  Is that were you live now or will be living???

DevotedStepmom

Dear Confusedad,
well i hope you like roller coasters because that is what your getting ready to embark on!!!  As far as venue I would speak to an attorney in both areas(county) and see what they have to say.  If you are indeed coming over to the east coast I could give you the number of our attorney I think the world of him but I don't allow him to run the show, I have done a lot of research and I have become very savy in this field and if I don't understand why he is doing what I ask until I understand because after all were footing the bill for all of it and we need to make sure our money is spent well.....  My advice from my own opinion would be to move, set up a schedule in writing with her but have an attorney in place while your doing it!!  So you can ask him questions along the way, and then put that schedule into action and start documenting and when your attorney who has been there all along feels you have GREAT not OK or possible grounds but GREAT grounds you go forward and yes once she has moved and put into action a achedule visitation plan and you have exercised you TIME as much if not more you then can get a court order not allow her to move while your going through your divorce in FL in order to relocate with the child she will need permision from you or the couts in writing allowing her to move!!  It's a new statue in FL that was done on OCT 2006, and it is a beauty when it comes to having a GREAT case!!  I hope this info was helpful and yes I would agreee that you probably would need to start a new conversation(thred),  good luck and if you need something just ask everyone here seems very knowledgeable and extremely helpful!!!

DevotedStepmom

Dearest NCP,
florida just past a new law in Oct 2006 in ref to relocation and it would be benefitcial for you to read the FL Statues on Relocaiton and it would help you understand more of what the law says!!  i hope this helps we are going through a relocation case too in Florida! I know it's long but hopefully it will help you!!!




Florida Statute 61.13001. Parental relocation with a child  

 
(1) Definitions.--As used in this section:

(a) "Change of residence address" means the relocation of a child to a principal residence more than 50 miles away from his or her principal place of residence at the time of the entry of the last order establishing or modifying the designation of the primary residential parent or the custody of the minor child, unless the move places the principal residence of the minor child less than 50 miles from the nonresidential parent.

(b) "Child" means any person who is under the jurisdiction of a state court pursuant to the Uniform Child Custody Jurisdiction and Enforcement Act or is the subject of any order granting to a parent or other person any right to residential care, custody, or visitation as provided under state law.

(c) "Court" means the circuit court in an original proceeding which has proper venue and jurisdiction in accordance with the Uniform Child Custody Jurisdiction and Enforcement Act, the circuit court in the county in which either parent and the child reside, or the circuit court in which the original action was adjudicated.

(d) "Other person" means an individual who is not the parent and who, by court order, maintains the primary residence of a child or has visitation rights with a child.

(e) "Parent" means any person so named by court order or express written agreement that is subject to court enforcement or a person reflected as a parent on a birth certificate and in whose home a child maintains a primary or secondary residence.

(f) "Person entitled to be the primary residential parent of a child" means a person so designated by court order or by an express written agreement that is subject to court enforcement or a person seeking such a designation, or, when neither parent has been designated as primary residential parent, the person seeking to relocate with a child.

(g) "Principal residence of a child" means the home of the designated primary residential parent. For purposes of this section only, when rotating custody is in effect, each parent shall be considered to be the primary residential parent.

(h) "Relocation" means a change in the principal residence of a child for a period of 60 consecutive days or more but does not include a temporary absence from the principal residence for purposes of vacation, education, or the provision of health care for the child.

(2) Relocation by agreement.--

(a) If the primary residential parent and the other parent and every other person entitled to visitation with the child agree to the relocation of the child's principal residence, they may satisfy the requirements of this section by signing a written agreement that:

1. Reflects the consent to the relocation;

2. Defines the visitation rights for the nonrelocating parent and any other persons who are entitled to visitation; and

3. Describes, if necessary, any transportation arrangements related to the visitation.

(b) If there is an existing cause of action, judgment, or decree of record pertaining to the child's primary residence or visitation, the parties shall seek ratification of the agreement by court order without the necessity of an evidentiary hearing unless a hearing is requested, in writing, by one or more of the parties to the agreement within 10 days after the date the agreement is filed with the court. If a hearing is not timely requested, it shall be presumed that the relocation is in the best interest of the child and the court may ratify the agreement without an evidentiary hearing.

(3) Notice of intent to relocate with a child.--Unless an agreement has been entered as described in subsection (2), a parent who is entitled to primary residence of the child shall notify the other parent, and every other person entitled to visitation with the child, of a proposed relocation of the child's principal residence. The form of notice shall be according to this section:

(a) The parent seeking to relocate shall prepare a Notice of Intent to Relocate. The following information must be included with the Notice of Intent to Relocate and signed under oath under penalty of perjury:

1. A description of the location of the intended new residence, including the state, city, and specific physical address, if known.

2. The mailing address of the intended new residence, if not the same as the physical address, if known.

3. The home telephone number of the intended new residence, if known.

4. The date of the intended move or proposed relocation.

5. A detailed statement of the specific reasons for the proposed relocation of the child. If one of the reasons is based upon a job offer which has been reduced to writing, that written job offer must be attached to the Notice of Intent to Relocate.

6. A proposal for the revised postrelocation schedule of visitation together with a proposal for the postrelocation transportation arrangements necessary to effectuate visitation with the child. Absent the existence of a current, valid order abating, terminating, or restricting visitation or other good cause predating the Notice of Intent to Relocate, failure to comply with this provision renders the Notice of Intent to Relocate legally insufficient.

7. Substantially the following statement, in all capital letters and in the same size type, or larger, as the type in the remainder of the notice:

AN OBJECTION TO THE PROPOSED RELOCATION MUST BE MADE IN WRITING, FILED WITH THE COURT, AND SERVED ON THE PARENT OR OTHER PERSON SEEKING TO RELOCATE WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER SERVICE OF THIS NOTICE OF INTENT TO RELOCATE. IF YOU FAIL TO TIMELY OBJECT TO THE RELOCATION, THE RELOCATION WILL BE ALLOWED, UNLESS IT IS NOT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CHILD, WITHOUT FURTHER NOTICE AND WITHOUT A HEARING.

8. The mailing address of the parent or other person seeking to relocate to which the objection filed under subsection (5) to the Notice of Intent to Relocate should be sent.

The contents of the Notice of Intent to Relocate are not privileged. For purposes of encouraging amicable resolution of the relocation issue, a copy of the Notice of Intent to Relocate shall initially not be filed with the court but instead served upon the nonrelocating parent, other person, and every other person entitled to visitation with the child, and the original thereof shall be maintained by the parent or other person seeking to relocate.

(b) The parent seeking to relocate shall also prepare a Certificate of Filing Notice of Intent to Relocate. The certificate shall certify the date that the Notice of Intent to Relocate was served on the other parent and on every other person entitled to visitation with the child.

(c) The Notice of Intent to Relocate, and the Certificate of Filing Notice of Intent to Relocate, shall be served on the other parent and on every other person entitled to visitation with the child. If there is a pending court action regarding the child, service of process may be according to court rule. Otherwise, service of process shall be according to chapters 48 and 49 or via certified mail, restricted delivery, return receipt requested.

(d) A person giving notice of a proposed relocation or change of residence address under this section has a continuing duty to provide current and updated information required by this section when that information becomes known.

(e) If the other parent and any other person entitled to visitation with the child fails to timely file an objection, it shall be presumed that the relocation is in the best interest of the child, the relocation shall be allowed, and the court shall, absent good cause, enter an order, attaching a copy of the Notice of Intent to Relocate, reflecting that the order is entered as a result of the failure to object to the Notice of Intent to Relocate, and adopting the visitation schedule and transportation arrangements contained in the Notice of Intent to Relocate. The order may issue in an expedited manner without the necessity of an evidentiary hearing. If an objection is timely filed, the burden returns to the parent or person seeking to relocate to initiate court proceedings to obtain court permission to relocate prior to doing so.

(f) The act of relocating the child after failure to comply with the notice of intent to relocate procedure described in this subsection subjects the party in violation thereof to contempt and other proceedings to compel the return of the child and may be taken into account by the court in any initial or postjudgment action seeking a determination or modification of the designation of the primary residential parent or of the residence, custody, or visitation with the child as:

1. A factor in making a determination regarding the relocation of a child.

2. A factor in determining whether the designation of the primary residential parent or the residence, contact, access, visitation, or time-sharing arrangements should be modified.

3. A basis for ordering the temporary or permanent return of the child.

4. Sufficient cause to order the parent or other person seeking to relocate the child to pay reasonable expenses and attorney's fees incurred by the party objecting to the relocation.

5. Sufficient cause for the award of reasonable attorney's fees and costs, including interim travel expenses incident to visitation or securing the return of the child.

(4) Applicability of public records law.--If the parent or other person seeking to relocate a child, or the child, is entitled to prevent disclosure of location information under any public records exemption applicable to that person, the court may enter any order necessary to modify the disclosure requirements of this section in compliance with the public records exemption.

(5) Content of objection to relocation.--An objection seeking to prevent the relocation of a child shall be verified and served within 30 days after service of the Notice of Intent to Relocate. The objection shall include the specific factual basis supporting the reasons for seeking a prohibition of the relocation, including a statement of the amount of participation or involvement the objecting party currently has or has had in the life of the child.

(6) Temporary order.--

(a) The court may grant a temporary order restraining the relocation of a child or ordering the return of the child, if a relocation has previously taken place, or other appropriate remedial relief, if the court finds:

1. The required notice of a proposed relocation of a child was not provided in a timely manner;

2. The child already has been relocated without notice or written agreement of the parties or without court approval; or

3. From an examination of the evidence presented at the preliminary hearing that there is a likelihood that upon final hearing the court will not approve the relocation of the primary residence of the child.

(b) The court may grant a temporary order permitting the relocation of the child pending final hearing, if the court:

1. Finds that the required Notice of Intent to Relocate was provided in a timely manner; and

2. Finds from an examination of the evidence presented at the preliminary hearing that there is a likelihood that on final hearing the court will approve the relocation of the primary residence of the child, which findings must be supported by the same factual basis as would be necessary to support the permitting of relocation in a final judgment.

(c) If the court has issued a temporary order authorizing a party seeking to relocate or move a child before a final judgment is rendered, the court may not give any weight to the temporary relocation as a factor in reaching its final decision.

(d) If temporary relocation of a child is permitted, the court may require the person relocating the child to provide reasonable security, financial or otherwise, and guarantee that the court-ordered contact with the child will not be interrupted or interfered with by the relocating party.

(7) No presumption; factors to determine contested relocation.--No presumption shall arise in favor of or against a request to relocate with the child when a primary residential parent seeks to move the child and the move will materially affect the current schedule of contact, access, and time-sharing with the nonrelocating parent or other person. In reaching its decision regarding a proposed temporary or permanent relocation, the court shall evaluate all of the following factors:

(a) The nature, quality, extent of involvement, and duration of the child's relationship with the parent proposing to relocate with the child and with the nonrelocating parent, other persons, siblings, half-siblings, and other significant persons in the child's life.

(b) The age and developmental stage of the child, the needs of the child, and the likely impact the relocation will have on the child's physical, educational, and emotional development, taking into consideration any special needs of the child.

(c) The feasibility of preserving the relationship between the nonrelocating parent or other person and the child through substitute arrangements that take into consideration the logistics of contact, access, visitation, and time-sharing, as well as the financial circumstances of the parties; whether those factors are sufficient to foster a continuing meaningful relationship between the child and the nonrelocating parent or other person; and the likelihood of compliance with the substitute arrangements by the relocating parent once he or she is out of the jurisdiction of the court.

(d) The child's preference, taking into consideration the age and maturity of the child.

(e) Whether the relocation will enhance the general quality of life for both the parent seeking the relocation and the child, including, but not limited to, financial or emotional benefits or educational opportunities.

(f) The reasons of each parent or other person for seeking or opposing the relocation.

(g) The current employment and economic circumstances of each parent or other person and whether or not the proposed relocation is necessary to improve the economic circumstances of the parent or other person seeking relocation of the child.

(h) That the relocation is sought in good faith and the extent to which the objecting parent has fulfilled his or her financial obligations to the parent or other person seeking relocation, including child support, spousal support, and marital property and marital debt obligations.

(i) The career and other opportunities available to the objecting parent or objecting other person if the relocation occurs.

(j) A history of substance abuse or domestic violence as defined in s. 741.28 or which meets the criteria of s. 39.806(1)(d) by either parent, including a consideration of the severity of such conduct and the failure or success of any attempts at rehabilitation.

(k) Any other factor affecting the best interest of the child or as set forth in s. 61.13.

(8) Burden of proof.--The parent or other person wishing to relocate has the burden of proof if an objection is filed and must then initiate a proceeding seeking court permission for relocation. The initial burden is on the parent or person wishing to relocate to prove by a preponderance of the evidence that relocation is in the best interest of the child. If that burden of proof is met, the burden shifts to the nonrelocating parent or other person to show by a preponderance of the evidence that the proposed relocation is not in the best interest of the child.

(9) Order regarding relocation.--If relocation is permitted:

(a) The court may, in its discretion, order contact with the nonrelocating parent, including access, visitation, time-sharing, telephone, Internet, web-cam, and other arrangements sufficient to ensure that the child has frequent, continuing, and meaningful contact, access, visitation, and time-sharing with the nonrelocating parent or other persons, if contact is financially affordable and in the best interest of the child.

(b) If applicable, the court shall specify how the transportation costs will be allocated between the parents and other persons entitled to contact, access, visitation, and time-sharing and may adjust the child support award, as appropriate, considering the costs of transportation and the respective net incomes of the parents in accordance with state child support guidelines.

(10) Priority for hearing or trial.--An evidentiary hearing or nonjury trial on a pleading seeking temporary or permanent relief filed pursuant to this section shall be accorded priority on the court's calendar.

(11) Applicability.--

(a) The provisions of this section apply:

1. To orders entered before October 1, 2006, if the existing order defining custody, primary residence, or visitation of or with the child does not expressly govern the relocation of the child.

2. To an order, whether temporary or permanent, regarding the custody, primary residence, or visitation of or with the child entered on or after October 1, 2006.

3. To any relocation or proposed relocation, whether permanent or temporary, of a child during any proceeding pending on October 1, 2006, wherein the custody, primary residence, or visitation of or with the child is an issue.

(b) To the extent that a provision of this section conflicts with an order existing on October 1, 2006, this section does not apply to the terms of that order which expressly govern relocation of the child or a change in the principal residence address of a parent.

Sincerely,
Devoted Stepmom  =)
 

Dearest Dave

I understand your frustration Florida is a very difficult state to fight in like most states though when your the father!!!!  What part of Florida are you in I'm not sure but I think it is PB??  If so how many times have you been before the judge?  Speaking of Judge who is your Judge and who is your attorney?  If you don't want to share this info I understand but I might have some valid suggestions for you and were in Florida at PB courts too!!!  And we are trying to prove PAS so it's harder to do that then BPD!!  I hope I can help you but if not atleast you know someone else is out there that is local!!!!

DevotedStepmom

Well our attorney said were gonna except her letter as a response.  Even though it is not a correct way to respond, because she doesn't have an attorney the Judge will allow it as a response and we don't want to rock the boat with the Judge...  

We are filling for a hearing and requesting the Judge to order a custody evaluation through the courts and that we are granted visitation over the spring break peroid for school so that we may have the children do there part of the eval then and go from there....

But i'm still in shock that she admitted to the fact that telling his father was no a priority...

Can you believe that???

Thanks,
DevotedStepmom

Well the saga continues!!!  My 8 yr old step-son is still in TN with his mother!  She recieved the paperwork from our attorney which gave her 20 days to respond and she responded on her own with no attorney!!
The letter was very interesting but I think the best part was the statement            
         "Telling his father was not the priority at the time. I did not try to conceal the incident. Even after relocating to TN the very first day of school, I met with the principle and the school counselor to advise them of the incident."

Yes, you read that correctly she admitted that telling his father that his son was molested was not a priority but that 4 months later it was a priority to inform the childs school of what had happened but not his father!!!

Any suggestion for how to proceed now?   We are not sure if she is in default for not responding because her response is not a correct or a formal legal one, and if she didn't file it with the clerks office she's absoulutely in default.....

Oh, yea did it forget to mention that she hasn't hired an attorney because she's trying to get legal aid but doesn't qualify for it because she lives in TN but the case is in FL...


I look forward to hearing from you all!!


DevotedStepmom

CPS was notified by the police but we found out that there was no case because the suspect was a neighbor not someone who lives in the house with the child.  We have contacted them and they have filled a medical neglect case againist her and sent it to the state that she resides.  We were denied an emergency hearing due to the fact that the children weren't in imediate danger.  So we put him back on a plane unfourtunatey but now are filling for a hearing for temporary custody of the child and the return of the child back to us.  We live in Florida and the child lives in TN so it's gonna be interesting....  The mother now is having the oldest child 15 yr old daughter fight with the the middle child that lives with us....  it's getting really bad!!

I'll keep you updated!!

Thanks
DevotedStepmom