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Quick backround:  My ex and I were married for 19 years, and have 4 kids who are 24, 21, 16, and 9.  It was hell on earth for all of us, except the youngest one.  It took me 7 years to get away from him. Their father devalued the 2 oldest, while spoiling the 2 youngest.  Well I finally called the cops on him, and he moved out.  He fit the clinical definition of a sociopath years ago, and now exhibits Narcissistic Personality Disorder behaviors.

I won't address his constant cheating while we were married, however after we separated he had a different woman every time the kids saw their father.  The now 16 year old boy (unfortunately I believe he has the same problems as his father) exploded one day in a rage, and called his father a slut.  This was in front of two of his sisters and brother in law.  The boy proceeded to wreck some furniture.  Yes, I've tried psychiatrists and psychologists after the separation, but it's too late.

After dating countless numbers of women, he found one and moved in with her, her parents, and her kids.  She, unfortunately is an enabler.  He fed her some of the most absurd lies, which caused her to call Social Services on me.  Unfortunately for my ex, the boy spilled the beans on him, citing his personality change(talks different, dresses different, got rid of all his possesions, gave the bongs to the 21 yr old, got rid of a 35 yr old record collection, etc) upon announcing his decision to move in with his now wife.  The kids had only met her once before, before he made this decision.  Basically the kids blew the whistle on him.  The social worker barged into my house, which I now know is illegal, and basically told me I needed some moral support.  I called the worker several times about the conditions in their father's new residence, until finally a man called me back and told me to seek legal help regarding my ex, and that they were closing the investigation.  This took place 2 years after our divorce.  I'm trying to do this chronologically, but it's hard.

We went through mediation, and my attorney tried to set up a fair visitation schedule for him.  I found this attorney through the local domestic violence shelter, and she understood that I was scared to death of him.  I was so disgusted with him at that meeting, that I went outside and had a cigarette.  You see, he's too busy and important to stick to a regular visitation schedule.  My attorney gave him 2 weeks in the summer anyway.  Later she told me that in all her years of practice, she's never seen a father behave like that.

Those 2 weeks every summer?  It's been 3 years since our divorce was final, and guess how many weeks he's taken?  ONE!  Look, I think he's emotionally damaging the kids, and would prefer that he fall off the face of the earth, but the 9 yr old, until recently, thought the sun rose and set on daddy.  So we all tried to keep our mouths shut about his outrageous behavior.

The latest thing to hit the fan has all the kids angry at him.  Here's what he wrote to me November 2nd:

"I will be out of town Dec 19-26, so can I please have the kids for xmas after the 26th for a week.  I cannot change my plans and would appreciate the switch in days.  Pleas let me know so I can plan accordingly.  Please write and let me know.  Thanx ****"

That was his scheduled time for Christmas visitation this year.  Why didn't HE PLAN ACCORDINGLY?  

You'll all just love this:  He sent postcards to the kids.  Bass Lake is absolutely beautiful.  He sent a scenic pic to the 9 yr old girl, and a pic of 3 lovely ladies in teeny bikinis to the 16 yr old boy.  The 9 yr old balled up her fists, and started screaming about him not taking her there.  I had kind of lied and said that he might be out of town on a business trip, so when she saw that postcard she knew that he was having a beautiful vacation without her.  The older kids were equally pissed off, because daddy never took us anywhere like that.  Like I said earlier, he underwent a personality change.  The 21 yr old started calling him "the artist formerly known as daddy".

My oldest and her husband agreed to drive the 2 youngest kids to their father's house on the 27th.  The kids will stay there until the day before school starts, or he gets tired of them.  They spent the night, then continued on to see the 21 yr old, her bf, and their baby.  I got an earful when the oldest and my son in law came over the next evening.  Understand that we lived like refugees.  I could never understand how a mfg engineer working for Northrop Grumman made such little money that we couldn't afford curtains or decent carpet.  Nevermind the leaky water heater and dangerous electric wiring.  My girl told me that he basically rubbed her nose in it.  His 269,000 brand new home, his paintings, all he did was talk about all his bling bling and how much everything costs!  My girl started crying at that point because he didn't even ask them about how they were doing, and why does he hate us so much?  

At that point, my son in law told me to take his ass back to court and to the cleaners.  He was furious when my girl/his wife started crying.  I'd rather not go back to court, at this time.

Well, I guess he can still make the older girls cry.  I won't go into how cruel he's been to the 21 yr old.  I've asked them to just quietly cut off contact, because it's hurting them.

Even though it's too late for the older kids(unless they seek it themselves), I'm wondering if therapy will help my youngest one.  If anyone has any suggestions on how to handle their father, I'd appreciate it.  One more thing...his lawyer told the judge, when asked who would take care of the QDRO, that they would take care of it.  I asked my tax advisor, who does both our taxes and decides who claims the kids every year, if I should do something about that.  He emailed me back and told me to do it yesterday.  He's plundering his retirement account, I guess.  One more lie he'll probably get away with.

Unfortunately I had several emotionally upsetting incidents last year, and my heart is kind of going bonkers.  I went to the doctor a couple of days ago, and my pulse was back up to 110.  The Prozac had brought it down to 89, so they doubled my dosage.  I just don't need this crap.

[This last sentence is extremely important!]

First of all we reside in CA. The budget debacle is being felt by everyone, especially the schools. I'm going to try and explain a possible problem as efficiently as possible, so please bear with me.

Separated in '99, divorced in '00.  Ex filed first and gave me total custody of the two youngest kids.  They are 16 and 9, plus we have 2 other daughters who are 24 and 21.

The ex has been physically abusive, and continues to mentally abuse us.  He is also a pathological liar, which is the basis for my problem.  The female who he was able to hoodwink(the number of gf's that the kids have met for 3 yrs is just unbelievable) is a 4th grade schoolteacher.  Being a schoolteacher, she is also a mandatory reporter to CPS.  He told her that I never cooked, I didn't buy food, that I'm a drunk, and that the house is filthy.  A social worker showed up at my door Sept. 15th, 2002 and barged into the house.  It was untidy, there were dishes in the sink...yeah if there's no food in the house, why do we have dishes that have to be washed????  

I think what saved us is that I was a court appointed, bonded conservator on my mom's behalf, serving the Superior Court.  My mom had Alzheimer's and dementia, and that's why we moved down here to the family mausoleum.  Also, without my knowledge or permission, this social worker interviewed both children at school.  The boy spilled the beans on dear old dad, but my baby doesn't want to go to school anymore.  This last sentence is extremely important!

In December, I received a phone call from CPS notifying me that they were closing the case, and advised me to hire an attorney against my ex husband.  He and his gf got married in a hasty Las Vegas ceremony, soon after.

Several months after this happened, their father exercised his legal right to access the kids school records.  My daughter's attitude and performance started an even further decline.  Unfortunately, while we were married (for 19 years), he never was involved with the kids schooling.  I did it all.  I'd like to see a judge make him recite just one teacher for each of the 4 kids.  

My son has problems and no one will come out and say exactly what his problem is.  He's been to several psychiatrists, private psychologists, school pyschologists, etc.  He had problems while he was still in diapers, and the paperwork on him since kindergarten would wallpaper my house.  He's violent at times, and definitely passive aggressive.

At his first IEP meeting of the year, I had to reschedule due to illness.  I told his guidence counselor over the phone that this whole thing is a waste of time and school resources.  The boy doesn't even have a GPA!  He's 16, he can get a job.  When he's tired of sweeping floors and digging ditches, maybe then he'll see the value of an education.

My son and I attended an IEP meeting at a later date, designed to try and intimidate me several months ago.  the whole crux of the matter is not that they care about my son, like the kids school district back home did, but that if his butt isn't warming a chair....they don't get paid.  They told me it was illegal for him to quit school, and when I retorted that I'd homeschool him, they said there wasn't anything available in this area.

I swear these people are socialists!  Anyway, my son hurt himself over Christmas visitation with his father.  The doctor thinks it's a bruised, or maybe a hairline fractured back rib. It is well documented that his absences due to illness and injury have always been above average.  The little one purposely drags her feet in the morning, and ends up late.  I have addressed this problem with her teachers, asking them to bench her during recess, or after school detention.  They tried to gang up on me, so I politely explained that not only have I been a parent for 25 years, and I've never had a child who was afraid to go to school until now.

My mom passed away in September, and as soon as I can claw my way through probate, we're moving back home.  I've read up on quite a bit of information about what CPS can and cannot do, and I want to protect myself and my children.  What their father doesn't understand is that because of his damned lies, those kids could be kidnapped and placed in foster homes.  He won't get them, and he will be hit for child support from the state for foster care.

What do I do to protect my family?  Should I hire an attorney?  Yank the kids out of public school?

If you've read this far, bless you.  I know it's long, but I wanted to give you as much information as possible.  

I know you can't fight City Hall, so maybe this is just a rant.

Some of you might remember that I mentioned my youngest daughter being in an accident on August 13th.  Well the police report is finally done.  I'm back down here to do some packing, so my daughter read a portion of the police report to me over the phone, until I told her to stop.  

They're blaming the whole thing on the driver of the truck my girl was in!  When my daughter (the almost 22 yr old) got to the part where the driver reeked of alcohol, I told her to stop.  On the night of the accident, Jessica went out to dinner with my daughter's fiance's brother.  They had a margarita with dinner.  Then they stayed at my daughter's place for several hours until he took his daughter back to his ex gf's.  At that point, Jessica and my youngest decided to spend the night at her house.  No alcohol was consumed at my daughter's house.  3 adults will testify to that.  It is the truth.

I received a call from a witness at the accident scene telling me the little one was in an accident.  His phone cut out, but not before I heard my girl howling in the backround.  I called my daughter to get out there and see what was going on.  Okay, my daughter called Jessica's parents at the scene, and told them what happened.  Her father called back the next day and and said that they took a blood sample at the scene and she tested positive for alcohol.  One drink, 4 hours before, and it still registers?  Well okay.  He also said, this was all told to my daughter btw, that he knew a lot of people and would pull some strings.

Yeah, that asshole pulled some strings alright.  I finally spoke to him last night.  He's telling me that he examined the skid marks and he could tell right away that it was Jessica's fault.  My little one's stubborn, unchanging memory of the events is faulty.  Then he tells me that she's moving to Nevada or Arizona to get a license.  Earth to Larry, that ain't gonna happen and you know it.

Just to help anyone reading this make sense of what I'm getting at, let me tell you some things about Jessica's parents.  Apparently Jessica was not a wanted child.  She was treated pretty badly.  A couple of things came back to me while I was on the phone with her father.  One was the time that Jessica's brother beat her up.  I think he dragged her by her hair over the carpet, and she had to have stitches in her lips.  Her mother lied about what happened to a police officer in the emergency room.  Jessica's lips were so swollen, she couldn't talk.  Mom's excuse was that it might affect her employment as a teacher.  I remember when Jessica came over the next day and told me what happened.  Even better, her father and brother at a later date pushed her buttons until her redheaded temper shot through the roof.  They then restrained her and had her admitted to the county psych ward for a 3 day vacation.  That's when she moved in with me.

She graduated a year ahead of schedule with honors.  She is a plumber and bought a tiny house at age 20.  When she lived with me, she not only helped my son with his homework, but also taught my youngest to read.  I didn't get off work until 9pm, which was their bedtime.  She even remodeled the bathroom.  Her parents financed both her brother and sister's college tuition, but they told Jessica to go pound sand.  There are a million other charming episodes, but these I remember.  That poor kid has been trying to prove herself to her parents for as long as I've known her, and all they do is kick her to the curb.

Back to the police report.  Reeking of alcohol?  Try a broken bottle of Victoria's Secret perfume that was in the cab of the truck.  Peeeeeuuuu! What is the stabilizing ingredient in perfume?  ALCOHOL!  BAC?  There wasn't one on the report!!!  There is not one damn thing about Jessica having a drop of alcohol in her blood stream.  It took almost a whole month to come up with this fairytale?  F.U. Larry.  

Is there anything we can do?  Emergency personnel are not going to remember smelling perfume in a multi-car collision.  The emergency rooms that they went to are jam packed with people 24/7.  They won't remember.

Some of you might be saying that I shouldn't care about this.  Well think about this:  We are staying with my daughter until we can find affordable housing.  My little one left her sister's house with Jessica.  The police report is a crock of shit, but an official report nonetheless.  What happens if my ex and Satan's little helper get their hands on this?

Yep, it turned into a rant.  Thank you for reading this, and if you have any suggestions, I'm all ears.  

An Eighteen wheeler Mayflower moving van carrying the neighbor from hell....far, far away!

Less then 36 hours later, the cinderblocks came off my chest.  Two weeks after that, the ice cream truck started coming down the street.  Hell, next thing you know, all these kids will be out on the street playing football!  Thank you God!!!

It's funny.  The "community service officer", who ordered the little one to let him in the house, and stood staring at me while I was sleeping in my bed, is the same person.  The last time he showed up at my door, I involked the magic words...violation of my constitutional rights(and those are?), my civil rights, and three years worth of harassment.   Haven't seen twinkie boy since.  Two weeks later, the psychobitch from hell moved.

There is a God after all....

On a really bad note, Angus died from being shot full of holes.  For those of you that don't know, he was our cat.  We had him for 9 years.  The dog treed him on my son's 7th birthday.  After we finally found him, my son wrapped him up and put him in bed with him.  Angus died that night.  I never want to hear Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here" again....

  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1085521/posts?page=1,50

If anyone is interested in Terri's fight for her life, this thread from FR has up to date info.  The latest is that this poor girl has a bedsore and has lost 2 teeth.  This is the judge you don't want hearing your custody case!

Sigh....guess I'm going to have to do some more emails.


Note:  I am not a shill for Free Republic.  I post off their website to save bandwith on SPARC.

I've been up for a couple of hours.  The neighbor from hell called the cops on us yet again....this time because my son and his friends got bored and decided to dig a "bunker" out in the backyard.  Finally, he's doing something normal!

The cops are cool, because she's called them on us for like 100 times in the last 3 years.  I can't fix the fence because the asshole for a lawyer won't let me.  I guess he feels that might cut into his profits.  However, the cops do need to show up., because it's their job.  The fence is rotten and falling down. It's been that way for 15 plus years.  Our backyard has an alley access, and my son informed me that the "block captain"(you're next, you witch)has been cruising down that alley checking out our backyard.  Word on the street is that she's friends with pyschotica.

Hey everybody, I've had it with that neighbor.  I can't even work in my front flower garden without her running out and picking miniscule weeds...always watching.  I bought some plants.....she hops in her car and buys plants, and sits there fussing over them while she's watching us.

My question is....how many months in jail will I get for dropkicking her wrinkled ugly rear end in the middle of the street?  Maybe I should pose this question to socrateaser....

This next installment will deal with how I got screwed by Los Angeles County MediCal....3k and counting.

I know SPARC isn't a hotbed of Martha Stewart fans, but I am curious as to what kind of sentence she might receive for her horrible crimes.

There is a thread on FR that's almost hitting 1500 replies.  Most of them gleeful high fives on her conviction.  Technically, she's looking at up to 20 years!

In light of the sentences people get for maiming, beating, and killing children,  will Martha Stewart get a longer sentence for a bungled stock transaction?  Although this was in the UK, I happened to read a story about this guy who ordered his pit bull to kill another dog.  After the cops showed up, he tried to get the dog to attack police officers.  He then kicked out the patrol car window.  He received one year suspended sentence.  The dog was adopted out to another family.  This is the second incident regarding this person ordering his dog to attack.  The first man suffered bites to his face, nose, and either his neck or arm.

So, will Martha's punishment fit her crime?  What I find really strange about this whole thing, is that Martha is a friend of Hillary.  She donates large amounts of money to Democratic candidates.  Folks like that usually don't get thrown to the wolves.

For the record, I like Martha's shows and magazine.  She's given me a lot of inspiration over the years.  Yes, I've heard all the stories about what a horrible person she is in real life, but I never have to worry about my kids watching her show, or looking through her magazines.  In fact I've saved every MSL magazine that I've purchased.  Great reference material.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/02/elec04.prez.main/index.html

God help us.

http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/040224/063614.html

Who Gets Custody of the Kids When Dad & Dad Divorce?
Tuesday February 24, 3:02 pm ET
Gay Marriage Uproar Pushes Need for Gay Family Rights; Legal Expert Jill Hersh Can Comment on Spectrum of Gay Marriage & Family Law


SAN FRANCISCO, CA--(MARKET WIRE)--Feb 24, 2004 -- Who: Prominent San Francisco Family Law Attorney Jill Hersh is available for commentary on the impact that gay marriage, and subsequent divorces, will have on the need for updated laws to protect the rights of gay parents and their children.
What: While gay couples were tying the knot in San Francisco, Hersh delivered her argument to the Calif. Appellate Court (Friday, February 20) concerning two lesbian mothers who are fighting over custody of their twin daughters. The couple shared the in vitro fertilization process; one supplied the ovum, the other carried the twins to term. Hersh wants the court to recognize that the children can in fact have two biological mothers. The court's decision could dramatically impact the law as it relates to domestic partners, particularly gay couples who start families using reproductive technologies.

Topics for Discussion:

--  What's going to happen to newly-married gay couples if there is an
    amendment to the Constitution to ban gay marriages?

--  As gay couples marry and start families will the law recognize their
    rights as parents?  What about the children's rights?

--  How are children of gay couples currently harmed by today's antiquated
    laws?

--  What changes need to be made to the law to ensure that both parents
    are legally protected when they start a family?

--  Is the cry over gay marriage just another campaign "sound byte" in
    this election year?



Contact:
     For interviews with attorney Jill Hersh of Hersh FamilyLaw contact:
     Lisa Byrne
     415-221-5018
     [email protected]
     
     Shelly Gordon
     650-856-1607
     [email protected]
     


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Seriously what do these lawyers do on their off time?

I'm envisioning a number of thirteen gathered around a sacred fire under a full moon.  They are discussing the fact that people just aren't getting married as often.  The men especially are backing off from marriage and fatherhood, thanks to their manipulation of marriage, divorce, and custody.  Bashomet has a brilliant idea to not only keep themselves in business, but also to foment civil unrest and ruin even more children's lives.

"We'll push for gay marriage!  Think about it, my brothers and sisters; they've managed to adopt children, or have them artifically, already.  We're starting to see a trickle of court cases with hysterical nancy boys and screaming dykes demanding "their" children.  With marriage  there will come divorce and custody wars!  Everyone knows that gays have more disposable income than straight folks, so we're gonna tap those wallets, baby"!

Lisa, Shelly, Gloria and Hillary briefly stop filing their teeth into sharp points, to nod and smile at this most excellent idea.  Mark Geragos already is one step ahead of his coven.  He's representing a non sexual.

Yeah, I'm in a bad mood today.

Apologies to anyone here who loves the Kennedy family, but this is too funny!

http://news.bostonherald.com/columnists/columnists.bg?articleid=253

Young Kennedy keeps up family tradition By Howie Carr Recent Columns by Howie Carr Sunday, February 29, 2004

The question now is not if, but when Robert F. Kennedy III will run for Congress.

He's only 19, but in Leominster the boy showed his true mettle as he became the first of his generation to hear those words that all Kennedy males must listen to as their rite of passage into adulthood:

``Mr. Kennedy, you have the right to remain silent. . . .''

A week ago tonight, Bobby the Third made his bones, and now, let the word go forth to a new generation that still more scions of Camelot are ready to pose that eternal Kennedy question.

``Do you know who I am?''

Once again the books are open in the Kennedy Crime Family. How proud Uncle Teddy, especially, must be of his great-nephew. Hands shaking, Teddy sips Jim Beam and beams as he reads the words in the police report:

``Indecent exposure . . . public urination . . . marijuana . . . drug paraphernalia . . . knife . . . suspended driver's license.''

The only traditional Kennedy flourish missing from the Leominster PD report is a dead girl in the trunk.

The boy goes to Brown University, which is apparently to the 21st century Kennedys what Harvard was to those of the 20th. It still puzzles the Leominster police exactly what Bobby III and his two friends were doing in Leominster at midnight. I can only think of one possible reason, but since they were already holding a bag of what the police describe as a ``green leafy substance,'' I guess the logical explanation doesn't apply.

And what's up with the sudden decision by Bobby to relieve himself, al fresco?

I mean, there's a 24-hour Denny's nearby, and heading north toward Fitchburg they'd have passed a couple more late-night restaurants.

But for some reason, boy Kennedy pulls Mom's car over to the curb, and a patrolling cop quickly notices that traffic is backing up behind it. The cop drives toward the Kennedy-mobile and this was his first confirmed sighting:

``Mr. Kennedy was exposing his genitals while urinating towards North Main Street. Furthermore, Mr. Kennedy was urinating in front of the above vehicle which was illuminating him.''

And you thought Cong. Patches Kennedy was a moron. Even Patches knows enough to stagger off into the bushes, or at least turn off the headlights. But Bobby III is yet another generation further removed from the criminal genius of the family patriarch, old man Joe.

Fortunately for Bobby, in Leominster they indeed do know who he was. The next morning, he appeared in district court before Judge John Curran - a former member of the State Parole Board during the glorious Willie Horton era. Judge Curran contributed $100 to the Dukakis for President Committee, and after a nationwide search, the Duke handed him a lifetime sinecure on the bench. Not a bad return on a C note.

Last Monday, Judge Curran only did what you would expect a hack judge to do - he handed Kennedy what amounted to a furlough, and not of the weekend variety either, like the ones the DOC gave Willie Horton. Bobby III just had to pay $100 - again, not a bad return on a C note.

So what does Bobby III do for an encore? Surely a safe U.S. House seat can be purchased somewhere in New York for him - Carolyn Maloney's? Anthony Weiner's? Waive the age requirement - don't they know who he is?

First Al Gore III. Now Bobby Kennedy III. At least, as one wag noted last week, we'll never have to worry about a Barney Frank [related, bio] III.

( Howie Carr's radio show can be heard every weekday afternoon on WRKO-AM 680, WHYN-AM 560, WGAN-AM 560, WEIM-AM 1280 and WXTK-FM 95.1. )

Anyone who is curious about John Kerry, and the whole anti war movement, come and check this out:

//www.wintersoldier.com

Many of you folks who are on these boards, weren't even born yet when the Viet Nam War was being fought.  My parents made sure I didn't know about anti war protests.  They managed to censor everything...lol, try doing that these days ;-)  I'm posting this for educational purposes, not so you'll vote for George Bush :+

I'm going to post a link to the active thread, because it's full of personal commentary, and great links.  

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1083607/posts?page=1,50

There's some choice stuff on Jane (America's sweetheart) Fonda.

Diotima and friends busted their butts on this site, so if you like it tell them so!

http://www.sx.tc/index.html

(I couldn't find this on the link provided)



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Something's fishy.
The Essex Soapbox ^ | February 17, 2004 | Mike Morrison


Posted on 02/18/2004 8:06:40 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy


I've long thought that John Kerry's war record was phoney. We talked about it when you were here. It's mainly been instinct because, as you know, nobody who claims to have seen the action he does would so shamelessly flaunt it for political gain.

I was in the Delta shortly after he left. I know that area well. I know the operations he was involved in well. I know the tactics and the doctrine used. I know the equipment. Although I was attached to CTF-116 (PBRs) I spent a fair amount of time with CTF-115 (swift boats), Kerry's command.

Here are my problems and suspicions:

(1) Kerry was in-country less than four months and collected, a Bronze Star, a Silver Star and three purple hearts. I never heard of anybody with any outfit I worked with (including SEAL One, the Sea Wolves, Riverines and the River Patrol Force) collecting that much hardware so fast, and for such pedestrian actions. The Swifts did a commendable job. But that duty wasn't the worst you could draw. They operated only along the coast and in the major rivers (Bassac and Mekong). The rough stuff in the hot areas was mainly handled by the smaller, faster PBRs. Fishy.

(2) Three Purple Hearts but no limp.. All injuries so minor that no time lost from duty. Amazing luck. Or he was putting himself in for medals every time he bumped his head on the wheel house hatch? Combat on the boats was almost always at close range. You didn't have minor wounds. At least not often. Not three times in a row. Then he used the three purple hearts to request a trip home eight months before the end of his tour.. Fishy.

(3) The details of the event for which he was given the Silver Star make no sense at all. Supposedly, a B-40 (rocket propelled grenade) was fired at the boat and missed. Charlie jumps up with the launcher in his hand, the bow gunner knocks him down with the twin .50 (caliber machine guns), Kerry beaches the boat, jumps off, shoots Charlie, and retrieves the launcher. If true, he did everything wrong. (a) Standard procedure when you took rocket fire was to put your stern to the action and go (away) balls to the wall. A B-40 has the ballistic integrity of a Frisbee after about 25 yards, so you put 50 yards or so between you and the beach and begin raking it with your .50's. (b) Did you ever see anybody get knocked down with a .50 caliber round and get up? The guy was dead or dying. The rocket launcher was empty. There was no reason to go after him (except if you knew he was no danger to you - just flopping around in the dust during his last few seconds on earth, and you wanted some derring-do in your after-action report). And we didn't shoot wounded people. We had rules against that, too. (c) Kerry got off the boat. This was a major breach of standing procedures. Nobody on a boat crew ever got off a boat in a hot area. EVER! The reason was simple. If you had somebody on the beach your boat was defenseless. It couldn't run and it couldn't return fire. It was stupid and it put his crew in danger. He should have been relieved and reprimanded. I never heard of any boat crewman ever leaving a boat during or after a firefight.

Something is very fishy.

Here we have a JFK wannabe who is hardly in Vietnam long enough to get a good tan, collects medals faster than Audie Murphy in a job where lots of medals weren't common, gets sent home eight months early, requests separation from active duty a few months after that so he can run for Congress, finds out war heros don't sell well in Massachusetts in 1970 so reinvents himself as Jane Fonda, throws his ribbons in the dirt with the cameras running to jump start his political career, gets Stillborn Pell to invite him to address Congress and Bobby Kennedy's speechwriter to do the heavy lifting, winds up in the Senate himself a few years later, votes against every major defense bill, says the CIA is irrelevant after the Wall (Berlin) came down, votes against the Gulf War, a big mistake since that turned out well, decides not to make the same mistake twice so votes for invading Iraq, but oops, that didn't turn out so well so he now says he really didn't mean for Bush to go to war when he voted to allow him to go to war.

I'm real glad you or I never had this guy covering out flanks in Vietnam. I sure don't want him as Commander in Chief. I hope that somebody from CTF-115 shows up with some documented facts challenging Kerry's Vietnam record.

I know in my gut it's wildly inflated. And fishy.

This e-mail was written by Mike Morrison, who won a bronze star in Vietnam and who is now retired, but wrote speeches for Lee Iacocca for many years. It was sent to his brother Ed, who sent it to one of our readers who follows such matters. -Ed.-
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Since Howie's out of the race, just a little FYI...

No, I'm serious.

This is Mr. Wonderful's idea of spending time with his kids:  if he does take them to his house, they sit and watch tv.  He and his wife go to bed at 9pm, and deadbolt themselves in their bedroom.  I received a call from my youngest at 10:30pm, saying she was bored.  She has a tv and a VCR in her bedroom, plus a lot of toys.  This was 2 weeks ago.

Many times, their father and his wife will rent a hotel room close to shops they want to browse through, and the kids spend the weekend cooped up in a room watching tv.  This last weekend was a pain.  My son in law got an email from Mr. Wonderful announcing that he would pick up the kids on Saturday, not Friday, and to make sure that they brought their bathing suits.  Unfortunately, the youngest has grown out of everything.  I spent thursday buying all new clothes for her.  Bathing suits are not available(at least the ones I can afford)in stores, yet.

My son is sick, so he didn't want to go.  When my girl found out they were going to stay at a hotel, she pitched a fit, but I made her go anyway.  Guess where they stayed?  The Beverly Hilton!  My oldest daughter went online and checked out the room rates.  I couldn't believe it, but when my girl came home she told me that the room was 397.00.  Daddy left the bill right on the table next to her.

She went wearing one of her new outfits, and told them about all the clothes she got( Susie's Deals had 3 racks of clothes for 99 cents-and I rounded it out with the regular 5 buck items) so daddy and stepmom took her to the Gap store in Beverly Hills and bought her more clothes, including a 2 piece bathing suit.  I'm sorry but I don't allow my girls to wear 2 piece bathing suits...at least not when they're 9.  When I can find them on sale, I'll buy her a 1 piece.  She can keep the other suit at Daddy's.

You know, I don't know why he bothers exercising visitation.  How in hell are you supposed to bond and spend quality time with your kid in a hotel room?  That's ok, when we eventually move, they have an uncle in that area(ex bro in law), who loves camping.  He doesn't have kids of his own, so mine are always welcome.  My friend loves camping and fishing.  He also collects non poisonous snakes and breeds them for a side project.  He'll find healthy things for them to do.  Hey who knows, maybe someday he'll be able to exercise HIS visitation, and all the kids can go hiking together.

So, back to my question...what do normal Dads do on their weekends?

Sorry about the rant, but I've been stewing about this all weekend.

This is pretty funny :D

These are from a book called Disorder in the American Courts, and are things people actually said in court, word for word, taken down and now published by court reporters who had the torment of stayting calm while these exchanges were actually taking place.

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Q: Are you sexually active?

A: No, I just lie there.

__________________________________

Q: What is your date of birth?

A: July 15th.

Q: What year?

A: Every year.

______________________________________

Q: What gear were you in at the moment of the impact?

A: SPAMSPAMSPAM sweats and Reeboks.

_____________________________________

Q: This myasthenia gravis, does it affect your memory at all?

A: Yes.

Q: And in what ways does it affect your memory?

A: I forget.

Q: You forget? Can you give us an example of something that you've

forgotten?

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Q: How old is your son, the one living with you?

A: Thirty-eight or thirty-five, I can't remember which.

Q: How long has he lived with you?

A: Forty-five years.

____________________________________

Q: What was the first thing your husband said to you when he woke up that

morning?

A: He said, "Where am I, Cathy?"

Q: And why did that upset you?

A: My name is Susan.

______________________________________

Q: Do you know if your daughter has ever been involved in voodoo or the

occult?

A: We both do.

Q: Voodoo?

A: We do.

Q: You do?

A: Yes, voodoo.

______________________________________

Q: Now doctor, isn't it true that when a person dies in his sleep, he

doesn't know about it until the next morning?

A: Did you actually pass the bar exam?

__________________________________

Q: The youngest son, the twenty-year-old, how old is he?

_____________________________________

Q: Were you present when your picture was taken?

_____________________________________

Q: So the date of conception (of the baby) was August 8th?

A: Yes.

Q: And what were you doing at that time?

____________________________________

Q: She had three children, right?

A: Yes.

Q: How many were boys?

A: None.

Q: Were there any girls?

______________________________________

Q: How was your first marriage terminated?

A: By death.

Q: And by whose death was it terminated?

______________________________________

Q: Can you describe the individual?

A: He was about medium height and had a beard.

Q: Was this a male, or a female?

______________________________________

Q: Is your appearance here this morning pursuant to a deposition notice

which I sent to your attorney?

A: No, this is how I dress when I go to work.

_____________________________________

Q: Doctor, how many autopsies have you performed on dead people?

A: All my autopsies are performed on dead people.

_____________________________________

Q: ALL your responses MUST be oral, OK? What school did you go to?

A: Oral.

______________________________________

Q: Do you recall the time that you examined the body?

A: The autopsy started around 8:30 p.m.

Q: And Mr. Dennington was dead at the time?

A: No, he was sitting on the table wondering why I was doing an autopsy.

______________________________________

Q: Are you qualified to give a urine sample?

______________________________________

Q: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?

A: No.

Q: Did you check for blood pressure?

A: No.

Q: Did you check for breathing?

A: No.

Q: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the

autopsy?

A: No.

Q: How can you be so sure, Doctor?

A: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.

Q: But could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless?

A: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law somewhere.

First a disclaimer.  I'm going to provide links to a prolife website, plus the relative thread on Free Republic.  This post is not meant to endorse or condemn abortion.  My intent is to show how biased the news media is regarding anything that does not fit into their liberal, feminist, communistic agenda.  Basically, they're 0wn3d!

When I was "pinged" to this thread this morning, I thought about the candlelight vigil for Michael Franke, and the obvious bias of the article calling him a "deadbeat dad", not once, but twice.  There are many of us here, and elsewhere who are ready to picket Claire's and David and Goliath for those damn T shirts and other merchandise. Let us not forget the ongoing struggle to keep Terri Schiavo from being starved to death.  The media insists on calling her a vegetable.

Original article with contact info:
http://www.lifenews.com/nat298.html

On this Free Republic link, scroll down for some very impressive pics.  Estimates vary as to the total number of participants, but there's a lot of them!  How many people reading this post even knew this was happening?  Look, when that many people show up to march, I don't care what your position is, it's NEWS!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1063912/posts

My purpose for this post is to educate those of you who are just getting into activism.  The media will more than likely ignore you.  Another example:  The 5th Annual Repudiation of Jesse Jackson.  The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson and BOND(African American Men's organization-Brotherhood for a New Destiny) have been doing this every year, and FReepers usually show up to support them.

There was a rally last Monday, castigating Jesse Jackson for perverting MLK jr's vision, and riding on his coat tails.  Did any of you folks know that this has been going on annually for 5 yrs?  It's a public protest.  Lots of high profile people were there.  There ya go.  Our news media would make Goebbels and Pravda proud.

This is my sole opinion.  

That's my title.  I've read about PP's origins and original goals over the years.  I found this article and link on FR today.  I just printed out the whole thing for people I know to read.  Even though I am reluctantly pro-choice, I find their "mission statement" completely disgusting.

Towards how fathers are treated these days,  read (better yet print it out, it's 13 pages long...my friend is reading it right now) the whole article.  

http://www.orthodoxytoday.org/articles/LearnSanger1.htm

First page of the article:

At a March 1925 international birth control gathering in New York City, a speaker warned of the menace posed by the "black" and "yellow" peril. The man was not a Nazi or Klansman; he was Dr. S. Adolphus Knopf, a member of Margaret Sanger's American Birth Control League (ABCL), which along with other groups eventually became known as Planned Parenthood.

Sanger's other colleagues included avowed and sophisticated racists. One, Lothrop Stoddard, was a Harvard graduate and the author of The Rising Tide of Color against White Supremacy. Stoddard was something of a Nazi enthusiast who described the eugenic practices of the Third Reich as "scientific" and "humanitarian." And Dr. Harry Laughlin, another Sanger associate and board member for her group, spoke of purifying America's human "breeding stock" and purging America's "bad strains." These "strains" included the "shiftless, ignorant, and worthless class of antisocial whites of the South."

Not to be outdone by her followers, Margaret Sanger spoke of sterilizing those she designated as "unfit," a plan she said would be the "salvation of American civilization.: And she also spike of those who were "irresponsible and reckless," among whom she included those " whose religious scruples prevent their exercising control over their numbers." She further contended that "there is no doubt in the minds of all thinking people that the procreation of this group should be stopped." That many Americans of African origin constituted a segment of Sanger considered "unfit" cannot be easily refuted.

While Planned Parenthood's current apologists try to place some distance between the eugenics and birth control movements, history definitively says otherwise. The eugenic theme figured prominently in the Birth Control Review, which Sanger founded in 1917. She published such articles as "Some Moral Aspects of Eugenics" (June 1920), "The Eugenic Conscience" (February 1921), "The purpose of Eugenics" (December 1924), "Birth Control and Positive Eugenics" (July 1925), "Birth Control: The True Eugenics" (August 1928), and many others.

These eugenic and racial origins are hardly what most people associate with the modern Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PPFA), which gave its Margaret Sanger award to the late Dr. Martin Luther King in 1966, and whose current president, Faye Wattleton, is black, a former nurse, and attractive.

Though once a social pariah group, routinely castigated by religious and government leaders, the PPFA is now an established, high-profile, well-funded organization with ample organizational and ideological support in high places of American society and government. Its statistics are accepted by major media and public health officials as "gospel"; its full-page ads appear in major newspapers; its spokespeople are called upon to give authoritative analyses of what America's family policies should be and to prescribe official answers that congressmen, state legislator and Supreme Court justiices all accept as "social orthodoxy."

Blaming families

Sanger's obsession with eugenics can be traced back to her own family. One of 11 children, she wrote in the autobiographical book, My Fight for Birth Control, that "I associated poverty, toil, unemployment, drunkenness, cruelty, quarreling, fighting, debts, jails with large families." Just as important was the impression in her childhood of an inferior family status, exacerbated by the iconoclastic, "free-thinking" views of her father, whose "anti-Catholic attitudes did not make for his popularity" in a predominantly Irish community.

The fact that the wealthy families in her hometown of Corning, N.Y., had relatively few children, Sanger took as prima facie evidence of the impoverishing effect of larger families. The personal impact of this belief was heightened 1899, at the age of 48. Sanger was convinced that the "ordeals of motherhood" had caused the death of her mother. The lingering consumption (tuberculosis) that took her mother's life visited Sanger at the birth of her own first child on Nov. 18, 1905. The diagnosis forced her to seek refuge in the Adirondacks to strengthen her for the impending birth. Despite the precautions, the birth of baby Grant was "agonizing," the mere memory of which Sanger described as "mental torture" more than 25 years later. She once described the experience as a factor "to be reckoned with" in her zealous campaign for birth control.

From the beginning, Sanger advocacy of sex education reflected her interest in population control and birth prevention among the "unfit." Her first handbook, published for adolescents in 1915 and entitled, What Every Boy and Girl Should Know, featured a jarring afterword:

It is a vicious cycle; ignorance breeds poverty and poverty breeds ignorance. There is only one cure for both, and that is to stoop breeding these things. Stop bringing to birth children whose inheritance cannot be one of health or intelligence. Stop bringing into the world children whose parents cannot provide for them.

To Sanger, the ebbing away of moral and religious codes over sexual conduct was a natural consequence of the worthlessness of such codes in the individual's search for self-fulfillment. "Instead of laying down hard and fast rules of sexual conduct," Sanger wrote in her 1922 book Pivot of Civilization, "sex can be rendered effective and valuable only as it meets and satisfies the interests and demands of the pupil himself." Her attitude is appropriately described as libertinism, but sex knowledge was not the same as individual liberty, as her writings on procreation emphasized.

The second edition of Sanger's life story, An Autobiography, appeared in 1938. There Sanger described her first cross-country lecture tour in 1916. Her standard speech asserted seven conditions of life that "mandated" the use of birth control: the third was "when parents, though normal, had subnormal children"; the fourth, "when husband and wife were adolescent"; the fifth, "when the earning capacity of the father was inadequate." No right existed to exercise sex knowledge to advance procreation. Sanger described the fact that "anyone, no matter how ignorant, how diseased mentally or physically, how lacking in all knowledge of children, seemed to consider he or she had the right to become a parent."

Religious bigotry

In the 1910's and 1920's, the entire social order–religion, law, politics, medicine, and the media–was arrayed against the idea and practice of birth control. This opposition began in 1873 when an overwhelmingly Protestant Congress passed, and a Protestant president signed into law, a bill that became known as the Comstock Law, named after its main proponent, Anthony Comstock. The U.S. Congress classified obscene writing, along with drugs, and devices and articles that prevented conception or caused abortion, under the same net of criminality and forbade their importation or mailing.

Sanger set out to have such legislation abolished or amended. Her initial efforts were directed at the Congress with the opening of a Washington, D.C., office of her American Birth Control League in 1926. Sanger wanted to amend section 211 of the U.S. criminal code to allow the interstate shipment and mailing of contraceptives among physicians, druggists and drug manufacturers.<.p>

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LEARN was officially established in 1993 at the African American Pro-Life Planning Conference in Houston, Texas. One of the primary goals of LEARN is to facilitate a strong and viable network of African American and minority pro-life/pro-family advocates.

L.E.A.R.N. Northeast is part of the Life Education And Resource Network (LEARN), a national network of Christian pro-life/pro-family advocates who are dedicated to protecting the pre-born and promoting traditional family values

This article first appeared in the January 20, 1992 edition of Citizen magazine and can be found on the LEARN website.
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I think many of you will see a pattern of behavior towards these goals, that are now targeting fathers as a way of punitive birth control.  How many of you guys want to start a second family?  Yep....

Ohhhh I'm pissed off.  I'm actually faced with the fact that I don't want to vote to reelect George W. Bush after this bs amnesty plan.  George, does Vincente Fox have something on you?  Why are you selling this country down the river????  Jesus Christ, Kalifornistan is bad enough already.  Jobs that Americans won't do???  Your examples of hotel maids, meat cutters and landscapers is bs!  I know unemployed Americans who would jump on those jobs.  We'll jump on those jobs thanks to all the jobs that were sent overseas in the last few years.  The jobs that paid a living wage.  George may you have to sit on the phone for 4 hours trying to find someone who speaks English and can help you troubleshoot your pc.  

http://www.fairus.org/ImmigrationIssueCenters/ImmigrationIssueCenters.cfm?ID=2250&c=15

What's Wrong With the Proposals for a New Guestworker Program?
 
 
 Proposals for a massive new "guestworker" program would:

threaten homeland security
grant amnesty for law-breakers, a step overwhelmingly opposed by the American public
establish a back door immigration program
threaten the jobs and wages of American workers.
The politicians pushing a guestworker amnesty know that Americans staunchly oppose amnesty, and so they shy away from calling it what it really is, instead cloaking it in terms like "earned legalization" or "normalization of status."  They are deliberately misleading the American public.

THEY SAY that the overwhelming majority of people entering the country illegally pose no threat to our country and that if we allow them enter in a lawful manner, we will enhance our homeland security.

THE TRUTH is that there are an estimated 8-11 million illegal aliens in the United States, and it only took 19 to perpetrate the attacks of September 11.  Our immigration system has become overburdened and unmanageable due to mass illegal immigration.  As a result, there is little reason to feel confident that, absent a massive infusion of new resources, which is highly unlikely given current fiscal realities, anything approaching thorough background checks can be conducted on applicants for a guestworker program.  Even without the added burden of an amnesty, people like Sheikh Omar Abdul Rahman, the blind Egyptian cleric who masterminded the first World Trade Center bombing, and Mohammed Atta, the leader of the September 11 attacks, managed to slip through the screening process.  There is every reason to believe that adding new responsibilities to an overtaxed system will make us less safe.

No one has yet explained how the millions of applicants would be given security checks or whether that's even remotely feasible, given an already overburdened immigration enforcement system. Immigration officials would have to deal with hundreds of thousands of more applicants a year, to say nothing of how we would verify eligibility for any of the eight million potential applicants already here illegally, particularly with many of them armed with false identity documents.  When the immigration system can't adequately perform its most essential mission, adding in the responsibility for security checks, tracking, and removal when necessary for millions of participants in a guestworker program will guarantee disaster.

THEY SAY that the legislation is not an amnesty, but that guestworkers who participate in the program will be eligible for permanent resident status.

THE TRUTH is that the proposal would be an amnesty with an "apprenticeship" provision.  Illegal aliens who are already in the U.S. would  be eligible to apply.  Thus, they would be excused for having violated our immigration laws in the first place, and then be rewarded again with permanent residency--thus making the law, in effect, a double amnesty.  Calling it something else does not change the reality that this proposal is a massive amnesty program.

THEY SAY the program will help regain control of the borders and stop illegal immigration.

THE TRUTH is that the proposal does nothing to discourage future illegal immigration or enforcement of our immigration laws, ensuring that any guestworker or illegal alien who wants to remain in the U.S. can and will.  In fact, about one-third of illegal aliens in the country right now arrived on legal visas and simply never went home.  In addition, it does nothing to strengthen border security to ensure that only guestworkers, and not terrorists, are being admitted.

THEY SAY that spouses and children of illegal aliens may also be eligible to participate in the visa program.

THE TRUTH is that this would be an amnesty not only for those who qualify for this "guestworker" program, but a simultaneous amnesty for their dependents, whether or not they are workers.  Aside from expanding the amnesty to include non-workers, it also grants a benefit to the dependents of illegal aliens that is not afforded to the families of other guestworkers who never violated the law.  Moreover, it undermines the stated – if flawed – purpose of a guestworker program:  that foreign workers come temporarily and then return home.  Employers would be able to utilize a virtually limitless supply of guestworkers at low wages, while the expense for services like education and health care for dependent family members would have to be picked up by taxpayers.

THEY SAY that an electronic job registry operated through the Department of Labor will allow employers to post jobs and American workers would have the first chance to apply.  Moreover, the jobs would have to be offered again at the end of the three-year period, and that workers' visas would be renewed only if no Americans are willing to take them.

THE TRUTH is that in the estimation of the General Accounting Office and former Labor Secretary Robert Reich, the provisions in existing guestworker programs that are intended to ensure that American workers get first crack at jobs have been a complete failure.  Even if the political will existed to prevent employers from bypassing American workers in favor of foreign guestworkers – which there doesn't – the Labor Department does not have the resources to monitor the hiring process.  A federal government that managed to fine a grand total of 13 employers nationwide in 2002 for violating employer sanctions laws cannot be counted on to enforce the provisions of a guestworker program either.

THEY SAY that BSIIA would be a market-driven program that will negate the reasons why employers hire illegal aliens.

THE TRUTH is that under BSIIA, there would not even be a prevailing wage requirement, meaning that employers will be able to offer wages far below what most Americans would be willing to accept, thereby creating an artificial need for guestworkers.  In effect, the law would grant legal sanction to employers who want to hire workers at low wages and limited leverage.  One of the primary purposes of our immigration laws is to prevent employers from undermining wages and working conditions of American workers.

THEY SAY that the program would prevent abuse of foreign workers by affording them mobility and the ability to file grievances against abusive employers.

THE TRUTH is that the mobility of guestworkers would still be very limited and their ability to change jobs would depend on finding another employer who was willing to go through the procedure of posting a job and wading through the bureaucratic red tape.  The primary interest of the workers would be to hold a job for six years in order to qualify for permanent residency.  Moreover, at the end of the "apprenticeship" period, when the guestworker would be granted permanent residency and would gain bargaining power, there is no reason to expect that the employer would not seek another guestworker who is willing to work at below-market wages.

THEY SAY that the program would prevent deaths along the border.

THE TRUTH is that U.S. immigration laws are not responsible for the deaths along the border – it is the violation of our immigration laws that is  responsible.  If there is any culpability on the part of the American government, it is in its failure to deter illegal immigration by aggressively enforcing laws that prohibit illegal aliens from working here or accessing public benefits.  Sending a clear signal that illegal entry to the U.S. will not be rewarded would have the desired effect of dissuading people from placing their lives and safety into the hands of unscrupulous smugglers.  Besides, when the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (BICE) adopted a measure that demonstrably cut down the likelihood of border deaths – by repatriating illegal alien crossers who were apprehended in Arizona to border towns in Texas – the open borders lobby protested, charging that the program was unfair to illegal aliens.

THEY SAY the program will provide workers when and while they're needed.

THE TRUTH is that when the economy takes a downturn, there will be millions of guestworkers in the U.S. without a job, without a home, without health care, and with no intention of returning to their home countries.  The guestworkers' unemployment problems become the public's burden.


1/04
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Okay, there is a grassroots effort that started a couple of weeks ago regarding any amnesty plan.  The deal is to stay home on January 12th.  Don't go to work, school, or buy anything.  If enough people do it across the country, maybe we change some minds.  I seriously doubt it, though.

Admin:  If my post is out of line for this forum, I'll understand if you remove it.  I'm just sooo pissed off, and FR is for some reason, cracking down on those of us who think this is an absolute national nightmare.  don't ask us why.

http://tampatrib.com/News/columns/MGAJ812QUOD.html

DANIEL RUTH

Published: Dec 31, 2003

If Michael Jackson, the King of Sophistry, thinks he was manhandled by law enforcement authorities during his recent arrest, there could be a perfectly reasonable explanation.

After all, it was probably the first time this freak of nature had experienced physical contact with a male old enough to shave. You know it's fairly pathetic when you claim Elizabeth Taylor as some sort of earth mother from Neiman Marcus as one of your best pals. But it's probably an inkling of just how far down the food chain of support Michael Jackson has had to reach when Darryl Strawberry shows up at Neverland Ranch as a - character witness!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeepers, wouldn't that be a bit like Bill Clinton calling upon Hugh Hefner as a moral counselor during the height of Monica-gate? ``Manhandled''?

Should the King of Tots get convicted on all those counts of performing lewd and lascivious acts on a child younger than 14, by the time he arrives at San Quentin to begin serving a sentence of as much as 20 years, he'll be introduced to an entirely different form of ``slumber party.''

Max Factor

Ever since the latest allegations arose against Jackson concerning his rumored dalliances with little boys, a number of questions have come to mind. And certainly not the least of those queries should be: Ought not the parents of the supposed victim also be charged with similar crimes as Jackson since they allowed their child to spend time alone with one of the strangest human beings on the face of the planet, with the possible exception of Moammar Gadhafi?

Which, of course brings us to Jackson's bewildering interview with Ed Bradley on Sunday on CBS' ``60 Minutes.''

Good grief, ``Survivor'' has more journalistic credibility.

``60 Minutes'' would have had every right to identify the King of Maybelline as ``Michael Jackson - Lying Through His Teeth,'' as he responded to Bradley's questions with all the candor of Baghdad Bob meets Strom Thurmond's genealogist.

For example, when Bradley asked Jackson whether he knew of any other 45-year-old men who liked to share their bed with children, Jackson said he certainly did, although he didn't name names.

Ahem, memo to Jackson: The Boston Archdiocese doesn't count.

But forget all that.

Forget that Michael Jackson, under a nine-count felony indictment relating to the sexual abuse of a child, just went on national television and admitted - AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - that he thinks it's just peachy for a middle- age wacko to turn his bedroom into the Playboy Mansion meets ``Sesame Street.''

Forget all that.

For the sake of argument, let's assume that indeed a man who likes to parade around in public looking like Joan Crawford is in fact merely an innocent, misunderstood Peter Pan-like figure who simply enjoys the nocturnal company of rug rats over, say, Halle Berry.

Fine, but still none of that would acquit Michael Jackson of being dumber than a sack of Limbaughs.

For this is the same guy who some 10 years ago agreed to pay millions of dollars to another alleged child victim of sexual molestation, effectively buying his way out of the hoosegow.

Despite the King of Chanel's insistence that he is merely a harmless Pied Piper of the prepubescent, if you already had paid out a tidy sum of hush-money to buy off an accusation of child molestation, wouldn't you have to be thicker than Warren Sapp's gut to continue to engage in the same suspect behavior that almost landed you in prison?

But it would seem there was another payoff of sorts in the works here, too.

About the same time Ed Bradley was sitting down with a man sneaking up on 50 who wears more lip gloss than Britney Spears, CBS also was announcing it had rescheduled a special: ``Michael Jackson Number Ones,'' which was not a reference to his mug shot photo ID. The original air date for ``Michael Jackson - A Man and His Dermabrasion,'' had been postponed once the Ward Cleaver from hell, who likes to dangle infants over hotel balconies, was indicted. A CBS flack admitted the special, ``Michael Jackson - A Man and His Pacifier,'' would never have been rescheduled had not Jackson addressed the charges against him in the Bradley interview.

Whew! Thank goodness the King of Avon cleared everything up.


I just love sarcastic humor )(

Btw, I saw the televised press conference given by the Santa Barbara County Sheriff.  MJ's ass is grass, and the Sheriff is the lawnmower.  They're going to nail his ass to a tree one way or another.  I'm ok with that, too....

Caution...this video is upsetting and could quite possibly piss you off.  I especially loved how that asshole yanked Lori Piestewa by her hair so we could get a better look at her mauled face before she died.

http://g.msn.com/0VD0/00/00?m=nn_engel_iraq_031230&csid=Msnbc

Man Commits Suicide to Escape Nagging Wife  
Wed Dec 24, 9:17 AM ET  Add Oddly Enough - Reuters to My Yahoo!
 


DAR ES SALAAM, Tanzania (Reuters) - A Tanzanian man killed himself by drinking a chemical used in cattle dips, leaving a suicide note saying it was to escape a nagging wife, police said on Wednesday.

   

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&e=9&u=/nm/tanzania_suicide_dc

The body of the 32-year-old was found in the commercial capital Dar es Salaam on Sunday with the suicide note and a glass containing traces of the chemical, used for killing insects on livestock, regional police commissioner Alfred Tibaigana told Reuters.


"I've decided to end my life," Tibaigana quoted the suicide note as saying.


"I am fed up with the constant nagging of my first wife."


Police did not have any further details about the man's death in the east African country, where polygamy is common.

Damn.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1042254/posts?page=1

Someone with a patient cat and too much time and tequila :-)

[Saddam scrubbed from list of descendants of the Prophet Mohammed]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1514&e=15&u=/afp/20031217/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_saddam_sherif_031217172549

Saddam scrubbed from list of descendants of the Prophet Mohammed  
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BAGHDAD (AFP) - The name of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) has been removed from the list of descendants of Islam's Prophet Mohammed, the head of the union of Ashrafs, who guard the genealogical tree, told AFP.


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Al-Sherif Najeh Mohammed Hassan al-Faham al-Aaraji admitted that the ousted dictator had been able to cheat despite the great value and honour attached to the line which is guarded in Baghdad.


"Saddam had forced the origin experts to falsify his genealogical tree so that it went back to the Prophet," he said.


"We will inform all the experts, and particularly those who yielded to Saddam and agreed to falsify his genealogical tree. But the real trusted experts are very few in number and all refused."


Aaraji showed AFP a photo of Saddam's tree including a large book of origins which go back to the imams Hassan and Hussein, sons of the imam Ali bin Abi Taleb by his wife Fatima, a daughter of the Prophet.


The cancellation of Saddam's noble lineage was decided three days after his capture by US forces on Saturday night near Tikrit, in northern Iraq (news - web sites).


The Ashrafs' union was set up after the fall of the old regime on April 9 by the men who under Saddam were part of councils of the sayeds, or lords, descending from Hassan and Hussein.


The union has the backing of religious dignitaries from all Muslim traditions, including the hawza Shiite seminary in Najaf as well as the interim interior ministry, Aaraji said.


On Tuesday the union held its first congress "to build the new Iraq", attended by Sunni and Shiite ashrafs, representatives of the interim Governing Council and other Iraqi communities.


"The first committee of ashrafs was set up in Kufa (Iraq) in 830 in the era of the Abbasids," said Ahmad Khoder al-Abbasi, head of the Arab committee of origins.


It moved to Baghdad, which became a centre for similar committees from the Arab and Muslim world. In the 1800s, the Ottomans suspended its activities and in 1917 the British scrapped the union totally, Abbasi said.
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Ooops....

Hey Saddam, sucks to be you :D

[The former first lady detailed her Thanksgiving Day meeting with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, saying she urged him to implement a high-profile effort to improve maternal health.]

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2003/12/16/111856.shtml

Tuesday, Dec. 16, 2003 10:42 a.m. EST
Hillary Praises Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan

U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton, praising the former Soviet Union yesterday for its 1979 invasion of Afghanistan, said that the attack helped bring women's rights to the fundamentalist Muslim country.

"The Soviets tried to provide more opportunities for women," Clinton told the Council on Foreign Relations in New York, in a speech billed by her office as "her first major foreign policy address as a U.S. senator."

In quotes picked up by the New York Sun, Mrs. Clinton noted that Afghanistan was "the place where September 11 was conceived and implemented." She then criticized the Bush administration for not focusing more on the former al-Qaeda stronghold.

Contrasting the U.S. occupation of Afghanistan with that of the Evil Empire, Clinton complained, "Too soon the eyes of the administration moved from Kabul to Baghdad."

The former first lady detailed her Thanksgiving Day meeting with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, saying she urged him to implement a high-profile effort to improve maternal health.(newspeak for abortion clinics, forced sterilization, and birth control?)

Clinton said that such a program would be critical because the people of Afghanistan need to see that America's presence has produced "tangible results" like schools and health clinics - not just electoral and political reforms.

She then suggested that a Soviet-style occupation of Afghanistan, which included the wholesale slaughter of the Afghan people in a bid to install a puppet government, had its merits, since it helped women.

"One of the reasons why we were able to marshal the Mujaheddin and the warlords against the Soviets is because the Soviets tried to provide more opportunities for women," she told the CFR.

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Arrrrgggghhhh!  Hey Senator Clinton, tell us how benefical those landmines were to women and children.  You disgusting......lawyer!!!!!

I can't say what I'd like to say.  However everything that I have said is my opinion not SPARC's.  

Ps: a little prediction:  Dean will win the Democratic ticket.  He will then name Hellary as his running mate.  God help us.

http://society.guardian.co.uk/children/story/0,1074,1106257,00.html

Courts are not failing fathers, says judge

Feuds over divorce are alienating children, not 'pro-mother' courts

Clare Dyer, legal correspondent
Saturday December 13, 2003
The Guardian

A high court family judge took the rare step of warning parents separated from their child or children by divorce that they risk alienating the child and losing contact if they criticise the other parent and adopt an over-rigid insistence on their rights.

Mr Justice Wall admitted that dealing with contact disputes in England and Wales had "serious faults". It was stressful for parents and children, expensive, slow and adversarial. It tended to entrench parental attitudes rather than encourage change, and was ill-adapted to dealing with the dilemmas involved.

But parents had to take responsibility for their behaviour; blaming the system was no answer, said the judge, issuing a judgment to stop a father from having direct contact with his 12-year-old son.

The decision to make the judgment public follows a number of highly publicised demonstrations by fathers who claim they have been mistreated by the family courts.

Mr Justice Wall, whose promotion to the appeal court was announced this week, said the points in his judgment, which followed a hearing in private in the high court's family division, needed to be aired.

Mr W blames the courts for refusing to accept his view that his former wife had turned his son against him.

The judge said disputes between separated parents over contact with children were among the "most difficult and sensitive cases which judges and magistrates have to hear".

The proceedings aroused "profound emotions" and the children became the battleground on which parents fought the perceived wrongs each did to the other during their failed marriage. In this case, said the judge, the father had wrongly accused the mother of child abuse, perverting the course of justice, defamation, and perjury.

The child, identified as O, had told a social worker during the course of the court battles: "It is like a war. You know they are fighting, and they are fighting over me."

In a letter to another judge from his school, the boy was quoted as saying: "Dad says mum fills my head with rubbish, telling me all the wrong things. I feel I have a horrible life because of these two arguing. I just want them to be friends. I love them both."

The courts had found, said the judge, that stresses of divorce and the parents' "acrimonious behaviour" were intolerable for the boy.

Mr Justice Wall said: "The father asserts that this is a case in which the mother has deliberately alienated O from him. It is not.

"The principal reason that O is hostile to contact with his father is because of his father's behaviour, and not because his mother has influenced O against his father."

The courts recognised the importance of both parents and were not "anti-father and pro-mother", said the judge.

His ruling came after the father applied to withdraw his application for contact. This will mean he will have no face-to-face meetings with his son for the foreseeable future - but can write and send presents and cards on birthdays and at Easter and Christmas.

The judge said the father had vowed to join the "peaceful public protest as a rapidly increasing number of militant fathers have done and will continue to do in the future".

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Posted on 12/12/2003 7:00:25 PM PST by Doctor Raoul


Day 183 of my captivity...
My captors continue to taunt me with bizarre little dangling objects. They dine lavishly on fresh meat, while I am forced to eat dry cereal.

The only thing that keeps me going is the hope of escape, and the mild satisfaction I get from ruining the occasional piece of furniture.

Tomorrow I may eat another house plant. Today my attempt to kill my captors by weaving around their feet while they were walking almost succeeded -- must try this at the top of the stairs.

In an attempt to disgust and repulse these vile oppressors, I once again induced myself to vomit on their favorite chair -- must try this on their bed.

Decapitated a mouse and brought them the headless body, in an attempt to make them aware of what I am capable of, and to try to strike fear into their hearts. They only cooed and condescended about what a good little cat I was. Hmmm, not working according to plan.

There was some sort of gathering of their accomplices. I was placed in solitary throughout the event. However, I could hear the noise and smell the food. More importantly I overheard that my confinement was due to MY power of "allergies." Must learn what this is and how to use it to my advantage.

I am convinced the other captives are flunkies and maybe snitches.

The dog is routinely released and seems more than happy to return. He is obviously a half -wit. The bird on the other hand has got to be an informant, and speaks with them regularly. I am certain he reports my every move. Due to his current placement in the metal room, his safety is assured.

But I can wait, it is only a matter of time...
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The guy who posted this(Dr. Raoul) is infamous for showing up at all of Hillary Clinton's book signings, etc,  wearing a devil mask.  She actually mentioned him on Letterman.  

Click the link for a couple of funny kitty pics and sarcastic comments :-)

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAVXE8N4OD.html

France Divided, Young Muslims Angry, at Proposals to Banish Islamic Head Scarves From Schools
By John Leicester Associated Press Writer
Published: Dec 12, 2003


 
 
 
 
 
PARIS (AP) - After Friday prayers at a Paris mosque, a simple question about the possibility of France outlawing Islamic head scarves in schools provoked a heated protest.
"I urge all our brothers not to take their kids to school!" cried Mohammed, a Muslim of North African origin. The crowd, drawn by his appeals, murmured its approval.

The danger of France's new effort to protect its secular traditions, these angry young men said, is that it will drive Muslims even further away from the rest of the country.

But Bernard Stasi, the head of a presidential panel that recommended the law against head scarves and other religious symbols in schools, including Jewish skullcaps and large Christian crosses, indicated Friday that France has no choice.

The law, Stasi said, will not solve all the country's problems with its large, often poorly integrated immigrant community. But he said France cannot allow Muslims to undermine its core values, which include a strict separation of religion and state, equality between the sexes and freedom for all.

"There are indisputably Muslims or ... groups seeking to test the resistance of the Republic, that bear a grudge against the values of the Republic, that want France to no longer be France," Stasi said on France-Inter radio. "We cannot tolerate that."

His commission's report, released Thursday, painted a grim picture of a nation struggling to accommodate different races, cultures and religions - while clinging to the belief that secularism best ensures equality for all.

French public schools should be neutral grounds that protect students from the "violence and furies of society" outside, the report said.

Yet, in school playgrounds, Jewish children are commonly insulted as "dirty Jew" and it "can be dangerous" for them to wear skullcaps on the street or on public transportation, said the 67-page report, the result of six months of study.

One student told the commission that at their high school any Jew who wore a skullcap would be "lynched." Efforts to teach Jewish history are treated with such derision in some schools that instruction about the Holocaust "becomes impossible," the report said.

In some urban ghettos, meanwhile, young Muslim women are forced to cover up and lower their eyes before men; otherwise "they are stiSLURPized as 'whores,'" the report said. It added that preteen girls are sometimes forced to wear head scarves, and that some fathers or husbands have refused to let male doctors treat their wives or daughters in hospitals.

"Basic rights of women are today scorned on a daily basis in our country. Such a situation is unacceptable," the report said.

President Jacques Chirac, who has previously made clear his opposition to head scarves in schools, is expected to announce Wednesday his stance on a law based on the panel's recommendations.

Any law against head scarves would alienate young Muslims like those who spoke with such passion outside the ramshackle mosque in a poor, multiracial section of Paris' 18th district.

Women "are emeralds, jewels - the more they are shielded, the more beautiful they become. They lose their luster if they are outdoors," said Riadh Chabaoui, in his 20s. "In religious life, women must wear veils."

Mohammed, who wouldn't give his full name, said legislating against head scarves would backfire. He said he tells his wife that she's beautiful in her scarf because it is "the flag of all Muslims."

"If you make me choose between breaking the law and breaking the Quran, I'll break the law," he said, referring to the Muslim holy book. "Today, they forbid us from wearing veils. Tomorrow, they'll forbid us from being Muslims."

Non-Muslims also warned that a law could carry dangers.

"Secularism has worked until now," said Monsignor Jean-Michel di Falco, auxiliary bishop of Gap, in southeastern France. "In my opinion, a law risks making this problem even harder to manage."

About 7 percent of France's 60 million people are Muslims; Jews make up 1 percent of the population.

Many Muslims immigrated from France's former North African colonies after World War II, working in factories and living in suburbs now corroded by unemployment and crime.

Stasi acknowledged some "immigrants feel they are not considered to be completely French, feel that they are victims of discrimination."

"In such conditions, it is not surprising that they seek refuge in what is called their community and that they lend a too-often sympathetic ear to those who cast doubt on the values of our Republic," he said.

Not all Muslims oppose banning head scarves. Some say a law would protect young girls from male relatives who force them to cover up.

"The veil is for home," said an elderly African begging outside the mosque, who spoke up only after the crowd of younger men had dispersed.

"When you are at school, or in the office, take it off," he said, adding: "If you don't like that, go back to your own country."

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Copyright 2003 Associated Press


Fork France.

Good Lord.  It took me forever to type a sentence for some reason.  Too much stress.  Please fix it :-)

I type 60 wpm...well at least the last time I timed myself.  

Thank you and have a nice evening!  I have to go to sleep now.

My 21 yr old daughter has been with her bf for 4 yrs.  She's left him several times, and she keeps going back.  I've tried to stay out of it except to suggest counseling.  They have a beautiful little girl who will be 2 in March.

We've been battling the flu, both at my house and at hers, which is 2 hours away from me.  Yesterday morning, she called crying, saying that she couldn't breathe.  This kid doesn't whine.  I thought about packing everyone up in the car and going up there, but I'm still feeling the flu after a couple of weeks.  My glasses are also pretty old, so I don't feel comfortable driving in the dark.  Too dangerous.  Ok, so she calls back and says it's getting worse, but her bf told her to just tough it out.  I told her to call an ambulance.  If she doesn't qualify for healthy families or MediCal, she can make 10 buck payments on the bill every month.

She has severe flu and acute bronchitis.  I called my friend who lives next to them, and he told me that he saw them put her in the ambulance with a oxygen mask.  I called over to the house and no one answered.  I called the hospital and checked on her condition, thinking that her bf followed the ambulance to the hospital.  Heck I took a guess as to where they took her and got the number from 411.  Lucky guess, it was the right hospital.

This is where I have a really big problem....not only did her bf NOT go to the hospital to check on her, he expected her to walk home when she was released!  5 or 10 miles, people! And it's freezing! I got a couple of phone calls from her in the hospital, and there wasn't any transportation available that time of evening.  She took a taxi home, and her bf bitched her out because it cost 10 dollars.  She called me this morning at 12:45 crying her eyes out and wheezing :-(

I called this morning, and she is still pretty upset.  He didn't apologize to her, or even ask her how she was feeling.  He does seem to love their little girl.  Too bad he doesn't love her mommy.

Any suggestions?  Taxidermy is not an option.

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Dear Senator:

You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. As we say in Iowa, I'll bet you couldn't pour p!ss out of a boot with instructions on the heel. You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you. You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon. You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done. I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell? Try to edit your responses of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly. You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs. You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won't have sex with you. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot. And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake? You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile, one-handed, slack-jawed, drooling, meatslapper. On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go. You smarmy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john. You clouted boggish foot-licking twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You gormless crook-pated tosser. You churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You cockered bum-bailey poofter. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup pratting naff. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill. You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go away. I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid, so stupid it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me. After this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don't have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh. The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of what you wrote, because, well... it didn't really say anything. Your attempt at constructing a creative post was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of insults among a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these things more difficult. If I had known, that this was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn't have been "right". Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you. You are a disgusting piece of filth, incapable of honor. You are so vile that not even a lawyer would consent to sexual congress with you under any circumstances. Nay, even your right hand shuns such congress with you.


1,124 posted on 11/29/2003 5:01 PM PST by 2111USMC (the few, the proud, The Marines!)
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Yes, I could have reformatted this excellent rant, but it would have spoiled the flavor.  


Have a nice evening, and sleep well knowing that people like Hillary are looking out for our best interests.


Whoops, this is my opinion, not to mention the entire Armed Forces...not necessarily that of SPARC's.....