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#21
Child Support System
Declared Unconstitutional
Minnesota Supreme Court upholds ruling

 
In 1975, Congress passed a law which included a last minute amendment to create the Office of Child Support Enforcement (OCSE). When signing the bill, then President Ford commented that it took the federal government too far into domestic relations and promised to propose legislation to correct the problem. Over the decade that followed, it became clear that OCSE intended to grow in size and power to control all aspects of child support law, seizing that power from the state courts.
The size of the OCSE grew, this decade acquiring a staff in excess of 50,000 and costing taxpayers some $3 billion annually. Child support laws were modified, so that simple mathematical formulae are used to make award decisions. This new simplicity is required due to the low level of education of workers who are assigned as "judges" in child support cases. Extreme consequences defined by new federal laws, often carried out automatically and without trial, give the child support enforcement agency power over tens of millions of individuals that surpasses anything previously seen in the United States.
After almost 25 years since its start, judges in Minnesota finally felt that they had seen enough. In June of last year, the Court of Appeals decided that the administrative branch of government had exceeded its constitutional powers.

"The administrative child support process governed by Minn. Stat. 518.5511 (1996) is unconstitutional because it violates the separation of powers required by Minn. Const. art. III, 1." (STATE OF MINNESOTA IN COURT OF APPEALS C7-97-926 C8-97-1132 C7-97-1512 C8-98-33, Filed June 12, 1998; http://www.courts.state.mn.us/library/archive/ctappub/9806/c797926.htm)
The Minnesota Supreme Court upheld the decision in January of this year.
"The administrative child support process created by Minn. Stat. 518.5511 (1996) violates the separation of powers doctrine by infringing on the district court's original jurisdiction, by creating a tribunal which is not inferior to the district court, and by permitting child support officers to practice law. Therefore, the statute is unconstitutional." (STATE OF MINNESOTA IN SUPREME COURT C7-97-926 C8-97-1132 C9-98-33 C7-97-1512, Filed: January 28, 1999, Office of Appellate Courts; http://www.courts.state.mn.us/library/archive/supct/9901/c797926.htm)
 
--Reported by Roger F. Gay


#22
I don't send money to collection services because its wrong. I believe in fighting against things that are wrong and not just bowing down to any god that comes along and claims to have authority over me. I am a free man not someones slave and the last time I looked I didn't have a brass ring in my nose. So go preach this stuff to some of the blind sheep out there that prefer to let someone lead them all to slaughter while I stand and fight for my freedom at all cost. To me its not about the 50 bucks its about dignity and the right to be ruled by the one and only true God our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ who made me soveriegn and free.
#23
Bravo leon I can't thank you enough for this post after all the heat that I have taken over my original post. This country is full of scarred little sheep that obey anything that even resembles authority. I have only one figure of authority in my world and His name is Jesus Christ. I don't bow to any other because I am free.
#24
The government commits kidnapping, perjury, extorsion, and unlawful detainment (incarseration) against fathers that have committed no crimes. Most fathers fall helplessly into the governement web of confusion when the ex decides that life without him (but not without his income) is more fulfilling. The government commits crimes against citizens everyday and it all somewhat of a technicallity because what it all boils down to is our day in court. True if you want to avoid going to court at any cost than run from every idea that may set you free. Otherwise be prepared to stand and fight. Remeber that unlike family court you are intitled to a jury of your own peers in a criminal trail. The jury will interpret the law and the situation and make the final decision not the black robed thief that makes the decisions in family court. I prefer to believe that my fellow man will see things from a free mans point of view rather than that of a slave.
#25
I simply said you were ignorant about this particular issue that is not to say that you are stupid or dumb. Ignorant only means that you don't know enough about a specific subject manner to give adivice on it.
#26
Well Kent I can see that we are not going to agree on this but I again I feel I must try to defend my position. Technically if you stay anywhere for up to 30 days, than that can be called a place of residence. Also technically if you plan to stay 30 days or longer its considered a place of residence. My point here is that you say if I told the truth I would get into trouble. I did tell the truth because I plan to spend longer than 30 days in the country that my license if from. Therefore this is legal and I am not a liar as you have accused me of. I understand that you refuse to agree with me and that may just be because you may be stuborn but I have done my homework and I know what I am talking about.
#27
The advise you are giving people about this being illegal is totally wrong. Yes it is true that to use this license you need to put your car into a trusted friend or relatives name for insurance reasons but that is not illegal. The United States has a signed agreement with the United Nations to allow drivers licenses from foreign countries to be used here and vise versa. I don't appreciate being accused of illegal activities and you need to do more homework on this subject before making accusations like that. I researched this carefully before doing it myself. You have to relinquish whatever state license you have to make this work because the state can't suspend what you don't have. I got pulled over with mine already and the only thing the officer wanted to know was if I lived in the country that my new license is from and of course I said yes I am here visiting the person who's name this car is registered to. That's it he handed it back to me and I was on my way. No laws were broken and I was treated with respect. So don't tell me it won't work or that its illegal because I know its not and you are simply ignorant about this issue.

#28
Hello Fathers,
I am writing this to inform all fathers who have fallen behind on child support and have had your driving priviledges suspended that I have found the remedy. Under the United Nations agreement with the US and a number of other countries, driver's licenses issued in foreign countries must be honored here in the states. I have found the cheapest and most efficient way to obtain a foreign driver's license that is valid here in the states and it can't be taken away for falling behind on child support payments. Please contact me if you are interested in obtaining a driver's license that can't be used as a tool by child support collection agencies to punish you for falling behind as we all do on occasion. This is totally legal and within your rights. All that is required is money for travel expenses and a passport. Please contact me only if you are serious and in need of this service. My email address is:
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#29
Child Support Issues / RE: Criminal non support
Oct 03, 2005, 04:34:45 PM
You sound like a major vengful bitch. CP's don't get it, you rip children out of thier daddy's arms and then you aren't truly happy until you are able to extort large sums of money out of him. Your kids are grown get over it, its time for you to grow up too.
#30
Child Support Unconstitutional


           http://www.adask.net/PDF/83pdf/83web4.pdf

Click on this link or paste it into your navigation bar to see where in 1998 the State Of Minnesota In Court Of Appeals ruled Administrative Child Support Process Unconstitutional.

Page38 Administrative Child Support Process Unconstitutional
A Minnesota Court of Appeals ruled that part of the administrative child support process violates the "separation of powers doctrine" and is thus unconstitutional. Although the ruling focused on child support, a similar strategy might be used to challenge other state or federal administrative agencies.