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Indy/Mk along with PD are hitting home runs.

Here's all I could do to protect my children.  I zoomed in and stayed focused on the children in the face of great adversary no matter what the issues.  I did not ask the why's and wherefore's knowing there would be absolutely no explanation or accountability.  If a situation became heated with a government authority (?) it always ended with them knowing I was dead serious and no fluff.

But then and again, in grades 1 - 6 I almost always had the check marks on the wrong side for Respects Authority along with Works and Plays Well with Others (while being held to a greater accountability).

Oh and Indy ..I suspect you would be a great Medical Examiner.

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You SIMPLY are NOT CAPABLE of INTELLIGENT COMMUNICATION.

Nothing you say makes sense or is relevant to ANY ISSUE and you could not be further from the TRUTH.  Just your typical single mom manipulations while slobbering all over yourself.

You are clueless and very confused.  The dead girls mother is a real woman and a real mother and so are her sisters and her mother.  Her other daughters and her neices would chew you up and spit you out.  She and I share the same mother and father.  That father, this father and his sons all associate with real women.

It was real women and men ...some known and others unknown, that made it possible for this father to raise his sons.      

Like I've said all along.  You don't know me and never will.  But I know of you and so do the real women in my life.  You're that brown spot on white tissue that we throw down, watch swirl around and disappear until the next time.  See ya again soon in your worthless irrelvant posts that are a waste of everybody's time.... just like the multiple responses.    

 

Indy...nobody cares.

I think there is A LOT about this case and the people involved that has not been said but the sherriff's comments ie bizarre; nobody will believe may be foretelling.  I hope you noticed that investigation by law enforcement at the highest state level was involved not just the local yocals.  I'm curious as to who got the national media involved and if it was done to combat a cover up ?  Historically, those small IL communities are very corrupt as is the entire IL. state government.

   

and providing complete credibility to the essence of my post.

** What's your point ?  We've been seeing tragedies like this for years.  There you go...sympathy and condolences **
Exactly .. for a number of years and the SAD FACT is YOU LIKE IT so you can spread your BS on boards like SPARC trying to feel important DEMEANING a dead parent or dead children with your smallness by expressing your thoughts and opinions.  HOW SICK !!!  There you go...victory in the abuses  of the low-life piss ant government YOU wanted to serve YOU....and so it has and will continue as such.

**I have a long memory. I know who you are. **
What a head trip.  This is your misguided way to take or assume some sort of power and control IN YOUR OWN MIND while implying I have something to hide or you have something lording over me which is entirely FALSE since I can/will/do stand on my own merits .  YOU DO NOT KNOW ME and if you did it would not matter anyway !!!

People with your attitude and mentality are the reason those kids are dead in Clinton, Dewitt county, IL.  Just running off at the mouth and never accomplishing or impacting any positive results especially for children while diverting issues to insignificance.

I once received a letter from Clinton IL, Dewitt county...adoption probate.  Upon contacting the head county authority I was told "the letter was just a formality to a parent..we have no obligation to even contact you...you have no say".  Needless to say, that was defeated
pro se from out of state.  Dewitt county was just one of four IL counties I got sucked into..the others required substantial legal expertise.

Here's the thing.  There are 3 fathers, 3 sets of paternal grandparents, 3 sets of paternal extended families.  With the gross endangerment of those children over an extended period of time ... do you think there is any chance that DCF had been contacted numerous times and if so why intervention did not occur ??  Do you think other responsible adults tried to intervene on behalf of those kids ??

How much more death to you need to see from afar before you get serious ???  Recently, I spent a week with family ... 26 year old dead.. 4 children (age 7,7,5,10mos), 1 husband, 2 boyfriends...it's very likely one or more of those children would be dead if it wasn't for extensive intervention by GP's...several years ago the twins were hospitalized in coma's.

SPG..you are shallow...roaming the boards with hoof and mouth disease spewing falsehoods, horrible advice often based on assumptions or your own miserable failures especially with your children.  You don't know Jack Chit and you are a detriment to SPARC and all of mankind.  Why not just read and if you THINK you have something to offer simply post staying on issue.   If I was in the same room with you ... you would quickly come down with the alligator mouth humingbird $ss syndrome.

BTW, not that it matters but I have only one handle OF COURSE and I guarantee you do not know me...no meds ever ..

First ... info on the 3rd father (exerpt from newspaper) :

The father of the youngest child also said Thursday he knew Hamm wanted to move to St. Louis.

"She didn't think she could take all the kids with her, but I never thought anything would happen," Shane Senters told WCIA-TV.

Senters and other family members granted an interview with the Champaign station they often watch but declined to talk to other media. DeWitt County sheriff's detective Rick Hawn said the family and others in town were intimidated by the attention of dozens of print, radio and TV news organizations at Thursday's hearing.

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There are huge considerations everybody seems to be skipping over  that are MOST relevant to the deaths of these children.  The considerations listed below exposes the attitudes of that society.

Three different fathers and none with custody...never heard of such a thing.  Children and fathers are not protected by their judicial system.

Three separate paternal grandparents.  I suggest they may have a more truthful view of the hole bitch and the grand hole bitch.  Wonder where the hole bitch's father resides.

The hole bitch only offered the children to the grand hole bitch and not to any of the fathers.  The grand hole bitch would only take the school-age child...is that revealing !!

The grand hole bitch spoken words concerning xmas and birthdays in relation to the hole bitch's parenting skills is the reality of motherhood to these hole bitches.  REALLY !!  

Nine indictments after 3.5 months.  Home town hole bitch with known behavior problems (bu who who) and substantial connection to prosecutor.  SOB boyfriend  from outside the good-ole-boy community that does not look like any of them. Loving grand hole bitch 'supported' moving to STL to live with jobless boyfriend in a motel because he played with the kids.  LOTTA CRAP ! Sounds like the fix is in ... lesser conviction for hole bitch while SOB fries !! ?? !!  Assume SOB arrived (to rescue the kids) after the car went in to the water..this SOB needs legal representation from OUTSIDE the good-ole-boy system (and probably the state) in the worst way.  

Alcohol but no drug problems...uhmm ..probable meth queen !!
 

Mother, boyfriend accused of drowning children in lake

Three children murdered.

Neither Hamm nor LaGrone still lives in Clinton. Lagrone was arrested at a motel near the St. Louis airport where he was living.  Hamm was taken into custody at a mission in Bloomington, each on charges of first-degree murder.

Despite the arrests, authorities continued to withhold details of the case.

At a news conference Wednesday afternoon at the DeWitt County Sheriff's Office, Massey cited a state Supreme Court ruling that he said does not allow him to release information that might prevent the defendants from getting a fair trial.

He also suggested that the case was too complicated for people to understand anyway.

"Believe me, you wouldn't understand it," Massey said. "You'll have to see the whole case to understand it."


Massey said Hamm and Lagrone will face nine counts of first-degree murder with aggravated circumstances. The aggravated circumstances allow a prosecutor to seek life in prison or the death penalty.

Paraphrasing the charges, Massey explained that the aggravated circumstances were presented partly because "the acts of the defendants that caused the deaths of these children was exceptionally brutal and heinous, indicative of wanton cruelty." Other reasons were the number of victims and their ages.

"Most people are going to be appalled when they see this case in court," the sheriff said.


Special prosecutor Roger Simpson, a private attorney from Monticello, will lead the prosecution to avoid a possible conflict of interest because Hamm's mother works in the DeWitt County state's attorney's office.

"There's some significant evidence that we were coming up with in the last 60 days," he said, adding that the evidence leading to the charges came from "hundreds" of interviews, vehicle testing and medical testing, including autopsy results.

Massey did acknowledge that investigators suspected foul play from the start.

"I think we realized early on it wasn't an accident," he said.

However, Hamm's former neighbors in Clinton have staunchly defended her and Lagrone, saying it's "ridiculous" to think they would intentionally hurt the children.

Massey declined to discuss why the couple was at the boat ramp but had no boat.

Mother, boyfriend accused of drowning children in lake

Three children murdered.

Neither Hamm nor LaGrone still lives in Clinton. Lagrone was arrested at a motel near the St. Louis airport where he was living.  Hamm was taken into custody at a mission in Bloomington, each on charges of first-degree murder.

Despite the arrests, authorities continued to withhold details of the case.

At a news conference Wednesday afternoon at the DeWitt County Sheriff's Office, Massey cited a state Supreme Court ruling that he said does not allow him to release information that might prevent the defendants from getting a fair trial.

He also suggested that the case was too complicated for people to understand anyway.

"Believe me, you wouldn't understand it," Massey said. "You'll have to see the whole case to understand it."


Massey said Hamm and Lagrone will face nine counts of first-degree murder with aggravated circumstances. The aggravated circumstances allow a prosecutor to seek life in prison or the death penalty.

Paraphrasing the charges, Massey explained that the aggravated circumstances were presented partly because "the acts of the defendants that caused the deaths of these children was exceptionally brutal and heinous, indicative of wanton cruelty." Other reasons were the number of victims and their ages.

"Most people are going to be appalled when they see this case in court," the sheriff said.


Special prosecutor Roger Simpson, a private attorney from Monticello, will lead the prosecution to avoid a possible conflict of interest because Hamm's mother works in the DeWitt County state's attorney's office.

"There's some significant evidence that we were coming up with in the last 60 days," he said, adding that the evidence leading to the charges came from "hundreds" of interviews, vehicle testing and medical testing, including autopsy results.

Massey did acknowledge that investigators suspected foul play from the start.

"I think we realized early on it wasn't an accident," he said.

However, Hamm's former neighbors in Clinton have staunchly defended her and Lagrone, saying it's "ridiculous" to think they would intentionally hurt the children.

Massey declined to discuss why the couple was at the boat ramp but had no boat.