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#21
Yes, I feel like you do. Please remember you are not alone, if that were the case SPARC would not exist. I am the girlfriend of a loving father of 3 whose ex wife constantly causes problems for no reason at all. When she starts her crap (she behaves for a while) again, I always feel like I have an elephant sitting on my chest and I can't breathe. It consumes most of my thoughts if I let it. I try to focus on other things. I find relief in the gym and my treadmill. There is nothing lifting a bunch of dumbbells to make me feel better! LOL!

I will try to make a long story short, but given all the crap she is put us through brevity may be a problem. They have been divorced nearly 5 years, and she has taken him to court 4x in those five years for a variety of things. The most henious was the false accusations in June of 03. Judge saw through it but still managed to reduce his parenting time yet again. This time his daughter's (12 at the time) summer visitiation time was reduced from 10 weeks to 4. It seems everytime we go to court he loses more time. Then in Dec 03 she tried to eliminate his eow visititation. He still lost more time...down to one weekend per month now. At that point he had not seen the kids all fall due to her  PASing those kids. He was also ordered into therapy with the kids even though he had done nothing wrong and it was their Mom. The therapist has been a miracle worker, and this past winter and summer were great..no problems with the Mom. In fact, she even told the therapist before the summer she would be willing to give him is weekend back. I KNEW there had to be a reason. Today we now know it was only for her to get her weekend time during the summer (we are 4 hours apart). It has nothing to do with those kids having more time with their Dad. Now she is renegging on her promise and they still don't have a schedule worked out for the school year so DH has no idea if he will get to see his kids this Fall again.

Her latest is trying to tell us how to parent while the children are at our home as well. She thinks that we need to have the exact same rules here as she does in her home. Talk about a controlling woman! This past weekend the 13 and 11 year old were wrestling (normal for them) and the 13 hurt her wrist...no swelling, no sprain, no break...just minor. Well that prompted Mom to email to say that they have a no touch rule at their house and school has a zero tolerance and the kids can not have different rules in different places. Grrr.... what goes on in my home is my business not hers. Those children are loved and cared for here, but she can't see that.

The therapist is involved and will hopefully see through her crap, but you never know. Secondly, the therapist has taken too long to respond to email requests for a meeting and my DH won't call or do anything in a timely matter. That is my biggest frustration in this mess. He handles things so slowly and I feel caught in the middle. I need to learn to disengage from the situation, but don't really know how to do so. I keep telling myself they are not my kids; not my problem as she is not my ex, but when you love someone as much as I love DH and the are getting hurt it requires emotional involvment on my part. I am so involved with these kids and I don't have any of my own.

I try to get beyond it, but each time I try I end up back in the same place. I vent to my friends, bless them, as I am sure they get sick of hearing the soap opera saga. DH's sister has been great to me to so I am thankful for her as well.

DH and I have not seen a counselor ourselves, but maybe we should. However, it seems that we have our good days and bad days when it comes to this. We have a rule when we start to think she (the ex) is interferring with our relationship and we spend too much time talking about her. Whoever brings her name up has to put a quarter in the beer mug!

Easier? I don't know how to answer that one for you. I thought that is was easier since we had the therapist in the picture and we had a wonderful summer with the kids without too much (lot less than normal) interference from the ex, but now that they are back in her care she is starting her games again. So, I don't know. I think I am just resloving myself to accept the fact that she will NEVER get and wont change so all I can do is change my reaction to it, and attempt to live my life as I normally would without letting her rule it from a distance. I try to disengage and request that my DH not give me all the details of what goes on in therapy and the courtroom and lawyers offices and just enjoy the kids (they are such great kids) when they are in my care. Sometimes that works, and sometimes I just have to know!

Put you out of your misery? I hear you on that one. There are days where I think they only thing I should do is walk away from this relationship so I won't have to deal with the BS anylonger, but then I think of ALL the good things about my DH and I can't do that. I just need to learn to deal with it better. I was in a bad marriage with an alcoholic, and now that I have found someone who I consider a soulmate and who treats me like I should be treated I can't just throw that away due to some ex who is mental. Granted, there are days  I would like to, but that would be the easy way out. Heck, if our relationshi can handle this crap, as it does test you to the limits, as you know first hand, we should be able to handle anything.

Hugs to you, as you definitely need them right now. I hope that things get better for you soon.
#22
The order does state very clearly about the 4 weeks visitation with his daughter for the summer. We tried to get her on contempt when she previously denied all weekend visitation in Fall 2003, but she claimed she couldn't make them get into the car with Dad, and the Judge basically agreed with her, so she didn't meet all 3 criteria with contempt.
But, it is worth a try again.


I just wish these women like her would learn and realize the disservice they are doing for their children with all of their BS.
#23
That is what Dh is trying to work out, but it would be more driving for BM as they meet 1/2 during the summer, but there is no way BM will agree to it. We already know that. Heck, we had an issue last weekend where one son missed the entire weekend due to an out of town church retreat, and BM stated that it wasn't necessary to make up missed-time.

In theory, your idea is GREAT. Unfortunately, BM is not a reasonable individual. I think it is crap that BM is the one that encourage DD to get a job full well knowing that she was to be with her Dad for 4 weeks during the summer.
#24
Visitation Issues / Summer Visitation Question
Apr 04, 2006, 04:13:42 PM
DH' s daughter is now 15.  We are 4 hours away from the kids. Per the most recent court order her visitation with Dad is 4 weeks during the summer, while her brothers who are 13 and 8 are here for all but 3 weeks.

Well, daughter wants a job and got one. However, they told her she can only have 6 days off during the summer (amusement park type seasonal place), and PBFH is the one who told daughter it was ok. So, now this means Dad won't see her one lick this summer if she accepts the job.

Anyone for any ideas? DH has talked to daughter about this at length, as they have a GREAT releationship despite years of PAS. DH is willing to work around it if he were to get other make up time during the school year, ie days off school, but the problem is that PBFH will never agree to something like that, as it isn't convenient for her. It is all about the court order with PBFH, as long as it only applys to what benefits her.

So, we are looking for some suggestions on this one.

Thanks
#25
Visitation Issues / RE: Replacement Time
Mar 22, 2006, 07:46:53 PM
That is a great idea about participating in the retreat, but for a few reasons that is not possible. 1) He has two other children who need him that weekend, 2) BM has bad-mouthed him up and down in the small town that he would be completely uncomfortable going to something like that. It is difficult enough to attend some of the kids sports things--there are whispers and stares behind our backs.

What we don't understand is that their daughter was in Italy a year ago and missed a weekend with Dad, but she gave a make up weekend for that during the summer. Why is it too difficult for her to do that now?

The response we got from her email basically stated that "she didn't understand what he was asking". Yeah, right? When Dad asked son if he had a problem with a make up weekend he said no, but Mom does!!!  Then she went on to say that she had already paid for this blah blah blah even though it was Dad's weekend. Well, we never agreed to let him go.

The battle is never ending, isnt' it?
#26
Visitation Issues / RE: Replacement Time
Mar 22, 2006, 04:08:23 PM
we can try that, but the BM will do whatever she wants anyway. The child will not be able to see Dad, and do this activity as his church retreat is an overnight in another state. DH already drives 4 hours one way EOW to see his children. Now he will miss more time with his son.

#27
Visitation Issues / Replacement Time
Mar 21, 2006, 08:47:22 PM
DH's son has a church retreat on his next parenting weekend. BM emailed and informed him of this telling him, not asking if it was ok for the son to go. DH emailed her stating he would like a make up weekend for the time lost since he only gets EOW during the school year and his time with the children is limited. He won't see son for the next two weekends after this one as Easter Falls in there and it is BM's holiday this year.

Do you think his request for make-up time is unreasonable? DH drives 4 hours EOW to see his children, as BM will not meet him 1/2 way.

Well no response from BM yet on the make up time, but she did say something to the said child, as son is now angry with his Dad. Once again, she is putting the child in the middle. DH told son that this was between his Mom and him. We will see what happens.

1) She will cave an give the make up time (least likely)
2) She will tell son he can't go to the retreat and blame Dad so son is angry with Dad
3) She will send the child anyway and then she will be in contempt

Opinions, advice?

ThankS!
#28
Visitation Issues / The child wins!
Jun 30, 2005, 08:47:02 PM
We had court on Tuesday this week. It was another one of  PBFH's (Sybil as I call her) attempts to reduce DH's parenting time with his children. This time it was the 12 year old son. Guess what???? It didn't work, and the child will still be here for the 10 weeks in the summer per status quo.

The negative part about this was that she had subpeonaed her own son. He was so upset by the time he got into that court room he was sobbing uncontrollably when he had to speak to the Judge. And no one had prepared him for what would happen when he didn't get (or should we say PBFH) what he wanted which was less time with Dad.  What mother would even THINK to put their child through such a stressful situation and then no even prepare him for ALL potential outcomes. She must have been really convinced that she was going to get her way.

We had subpeoned the counselor who was court orderd back in 2003 per Judge and PBFH's request. Counselor was our godsend stating that he could not determine whether this was truly the child's wish, or Mom's. The Judge concured based on the fact that we were in his courtroom in 2003 for the same problem with his older daughter when she was 12.

Of course, we have no learned from oldest child that PBFH is done with this counselor (she had told DH that earlier this year) because he wasn't fair. Well, that is because counselor has always been about what is best for the kids and so has DH but NOT PBFH.

At any rate, DH didn't lose any more parenting time. PBFH finally lost one in the courtroom. I hope her losing puts a stop to her initiating battle after battle for no reason other than her own insecurities.

So, overall this was a good week despite the stress of being in court, and of course, worrying sick about how son was going to handle it.
#29
Visitation Issues / RE: What would you do?
Jun 25, 2005, 08:29:21 AM
No, never served. However, yesterday PBFH's atty called DH's atty and said "oops, I forgot to send you the paperwork is it ok if we proceed with the hearing on Monday as scheuduled." What a joke, huh? DH's atty said absolutely not. Well, now it is rescheduled for Tuesday....give me a break. We haven't seen a copy of the papers, but based on what DH's atty said to him on the phone Friday PBFH basically wants this hearing so that son who is 12 can tell the Judge he doesn't want to spend as much time with his Dad during the summer. I think in the papers it mentioned that son does love Dad, but just wants less time with him.

WTF? Does this woman think a 12 year old has the right to make the decision? Who is the parent here? I hope the Judge fries her butt, but then again every other time we went for something similar she got some form of what she requested. Same thing with daughter when she was 12 in 2003. However, son is no where near the maturity level daughter was or is at now. This son can't even have a conversation without mumbling to you. I suspect he will freeze if the Judge actually allows him to talk. I don't think DH's atty is going to be very nice either and force him to say some things about his Mom like how she lets him say FU to his Dad and then not discipline him for it and how she condones him treating his father poorly.

The entire situation is just plain UGLY. We need some thoughts and good luck on Tues 6/28/05. Hearing is at 11. I will post when I know the outcome good or bad.

Thanks for everyone's support here.
#30
Visitation Issues / What would you do?
Jun 21, 2005, 04:34:28 PM
This is all so weird. DH's atty informed him there was a court date on 6/27/05. Dh's atty learned this after talking with BM's atty about a month ago. As of today, less than a week away from the court date, DH's atty has YET to receive any paperwork regarding the motion BM is filing. However, we did get a subpeona in the mail fo his middle son (12) to appear in court that day.

The kids are here for summer visitation. We suspected the court date was another attempt to reduce his parenting time as that is her modus operandi. Still no paperwork from her atty to DH's, though?

Then, yesterday, DH receives an email from BM regarding summer parenting time and it is pretty much what DH had emailed her back in the beginning of May with a few exceptions. Now she is going to comply?

Why are we still going to court? I just plain don't get any of this; it is all so weird. The only thing I get is that this just goes to prove she is a lunatic!

1) Why didn't she respond to his email sooner, instead of serving him with court papers (which we don't yet have, but allegedly must exist if there is a court date).

2) Why all of a sudden does she want to agree?

DH talked to his atty via email and today got a response stating he STILL has no paperwork whatsoever from her atty. I am so confused.