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You are only reasonsible until 21 not for the duration of their college education unless otherwise stipulated to in the court order. NY needs to make some changes happen!!! Parents being responsible for &/or having to pay past 18 is totally antiquated.

KAT

Last involuntary servitude payment huh? That really must be a wondeful feeling! YIPPEEEE!!!!!

100 bottles of beer...wonder how the ex is going to fill up that huge beer gut in 100 days? I resent ever last dime we ever sent that moon pie faced hag. She gets tanned every single day, her hair done, her nails done...but then I guess she has too what with being so obese, so wrinkled, so saggy & just generally so ugly it's the only thing she has left (I think her soul is showing). Christ the woman looks like she's melting. She really reminds me of that turd in Weird Science. I wonder how many packages of Ding-Dongs, Ho-Ho's & Big New Yorker pizza's Mr. KAT's 2k of monthly support purchased her over the last 4 years...about 105k worth I'd imagine. I hate that woman; she makes me want to puke. I have a hard time even putting a face on the spawn of the devil anymore she is just pure evil. She doesn't work, has never worked. She has lived off the backs of others including her own family her entire life. Right now she's expecting a few thousand from yet another slip/fall...this will be lawsuit #7 and that's only in the state of Virginia. Never bought a loaf of bread or a gallon of milk during the 7 years Mr. KAT had custody. Never paid a dime of the $20 per week she was ordered to....but the judge decided she was indigent so she didn't have to pay the arrears anyway.

That's another thing about child support. How many times do you hear the CP (usually the woman) whining that they need to increase support or they aren't getting support when yet they aren't financially supporting the children either. And NO the spouses income doesn't count nor should it be used as an excuse not to support your own children. The laws need to be changed. Children take ALOT of work on a daily basis. ALOT OF WORK. If you are unable to work then you can't parent your children effectively either. Therefore custody needs to be changed to the parent who WILL work & financially support them. It really is that simple. Think of what it will do to the welfare rolls if women (mostly) aren't getting custody because they aren't working...oh crap, what a trap huh? Custody = work = no free ride...which way to go, oh, oh, what to do!

KAT

Sounds like you'll be able to emancipate. This was posted on another board:
http://www.empirestatecoalition.org/emanc.html

Good luck & please let us know how it turns out!

KAT

I agree. file to emancipate him. He makes his own living, not enrolled in college, refuses to live with either parent .. I believe in NY is enough. Anything else you do for the adult will be voluntary. NY law is stupid. Fight to change it even though it won't help your case now it will help future generations.
Let us know what the lawyer has to say. Forget support services, they'll have you paying until the kid collects social security!!! *snort*
:)
KAT

That's a bunch of crappola. Like many CP's they think that the NCP should give them their entire paycheck then work an extra job to pay them MORE...and if that's not enough how about selling every last thing they have?? Cause no matter what the NCP does, it's not enough because I'm the CP & I have *THE POWER*.
 Have him start documenting when he picks up the children from school even if it's only on a calander. Then when she stupidly files for an increase cause she's *saving it* have him file for joint custody. She ain't saving nothing. She just feels he should pay ALL the bills, the kids AND hers.
Went thru this *saving it* with the ex's ex. Yeah, my ex kept paying her the same amount even after 2 turned 18 but didn't go to court cause she was *saving it* for college expense for the children. Yeah, right. When it came time to pay since only the youngest went to college she said " I don't have it, HE didn't pay ENOUGH" Yeah, almost half a mill...and where they lived, that kind of support was NOT warrented.
KAT

Listen, it wasn't that we (at least myself) was bitching at you personally but more in general. It's just very common to see the cp constantly asking for increasing so that ncp can never can anywhere. I'm sorry that you have to pay so much involuntary servitude & that is what we are fighting for  ..to change the antiquated laws that strip parents of the children, that force children to grow up with only one parent, that force one parent to be nothing more then a visitor & a wallet. I'm sorry but it doesn't help to have your wife suck every single last dime from biodad. Don't you know how that feels yourself???? Are you just asking for an increase to help makeup for the expensive child support you have to pay? Two wrongs don't make a right either... But hey that's my silly thoughts!! If things don't change your sons could end up in the same position as your are...visitor & a wallet. Is that what you want?
KAT

Unless you live in one of the states that require the CP to prove where the support is going if over a certain amount (average of 800 per month, which is really nothing but a joke)
 then your boyfriends point is moot...and probably even then he has nothing!

If she is a drug addict then is she on state assistance? If so then they are going to come at him long & hard FOREVER. Does he not understand that there is now a central system & that anyone that hires him (legally) has to put his SS number into the system to check for unpaid child support?

Personally what he is doing is being a stupid ass & you should find someone better. He's making excuses. If she really is a drug addict then why is he leaving the kids with her? DOO! Why not go for custody no matter what the cost? Since he's not paying support he should have the money right? IF she really is a drug addict then with a hair follical test it's pretty easy to prove. Heck, in some weird sorted way I'd venture to guess that most NCP's on this board would love have proof of an unfit parent so easily provided. He most likely would have a slam dunk but he'd rather run the fight.

Your fears are real. You don't sound like a stupid chick to me. Do better.

I don't believe in the current child support laws but frankly not paying is asking for trouble....in the clink.


KAT

TAX FREE MONEY!! Dad has to pay taxes on it but MOM gets it for free! Plus I bet she gets the tax deduction too...probably doesn't work but hey, it's perfectly fine that she doesn't financially support the children simply because she has ownership of them. Something is seriously wrong with the system!

KAT

I'm not 100% sure you can get it changed unless your husband immediately files a case in CA.
The duration of child support will NEVER change from that of the original state of issue. (no cs shopping!)
As long as she remains in CA (if state of jurisdiction) modifications will always be there unless she agrees to a change. If she moves it could be a free for all. Same if you are still in LA & it's heard there...she can't move to say CT & try to get more money.
Not sure if you are aware but according to several studies, namely the American Blood Bank, 30% of DNA tests come back NOT THE DADDY. Pretty sad representation of the extent of moral decay in this society. He really needs to get this done. I'll keep my fingers crossed that the nut will be gone FOREVER after this. Man, he sure can pick em huh?
And I'm sure you are aware that visitation can not be forced.
KAT

Sorry, guess I was out in the sun too long today putting together my new handy dandy Mantis Twin composter...allow me to brag, we only have...drum roll..147 more days to pay biohag 2k. See, it really does end someday, you just have to hold out! I think I miss-read your post.
Now, I thought he was already paying 50% for two? If that is so then she'll get either nothing or the judge could order something over the guidelines. If he's only paying for one they don't automatically go for 50% (thank god, don't give them any ideas okay!).
Best thing you can do Kiddo is to go to //www.supportguidelines.com & work up both states calculators ALSO looking at the duration of support & of course college (gee, think that should be voluntary ONLY for married people? sheezz). I have a BAD feeling that LA is one of those states where support continues to 23 or something..something not good at all, but don't quote me on it, please make sure you look it up yourself. Personally if it cost me 20 bucks a month more to pay under CA guidelines & it stops at 18 I'd take it over paying longer & for college...but you know that.
If you find out that this is the case the I suggest, FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES (gotta say that) posting what do you need to do on our resident lawyer Socrateasers board. He's a wonderful CA attorney who we all respect alot even though what he says can be difficult to swallow at times (cause he's right, it's the law, and it sucks..can't blame him! Ahh, he makes me laugh).
E-bay can be a good thing. I've been selling on & off since 95. If you need help, just give me a shout.
To answer your last question about CA, no I really don't believe they make adjustments since you would be submitting to their jurisdiction. BUT don't go nuts here, it would seem that CA would be higher but it's usually right in line...now MA or CT you'd be looking at more...go figure, I think even AL is higher. CA usually comes in about the same as where we are in VA.
KAT