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Author Topic: What about Walmart? Any takers?  (Read 10130 times)

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RE: First of all
« Reply #20 on: Jul 01, 2005, 08:22:37 AM »
I agree with POC. You missed the entire point of this.

There are about 10-15% of dads who do not give a damn. But this is giving all the rest a bad rap. And you will find many fathers who DO pay, but with circumstances beyond their control, they become "dead broke". They are overwhelmed by an unjust system, that keeps taking and taking.

They are good fathers, and I bet if the real statistics came out, you would find 50%- 60% of CP's who deny and interfere with visitation, is that fair? Where are the stores backing denied/interference with visitation? You won't see them. There is that word again. I AM NOT A VISITATOR.

I know Wendl is a great CP and there are so many others. Do not take this as a slam. I just wish someone would put just 10% of effort into denials. It only hurts the kids.

"Children learn what they live"


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I didn't miss the point.
« Reply #21 on: Jul 01, 2005, 09:53:26 AM »
I don't think that Walmart and Target should team up with ACES.  I also DO realize that there are NCPs out there who pay WAY too much for CS.  I also realize that there are CPs out there who do not allow the NCPs to visit their children.

All that I was trying to say was that I was surprised that Walmart was teaming up with ACES since they didn't even garnish my ex's wages when they were court-ordered to.  

I DID take offense to POC's first line of their response to me:

"How much your ex owes in CS is a non-issue to me, since no state has equitable CS guidelines."

Surely he doesn't think that $35/week is too much to pay for a 14 year old girl!  I only wish that my ex would pay it.  It would really help our daughter out alot!  I struggle each and every week to buy her the things that she needs.  We just had to go to the emergency room last night because she fell and cut her knee.  12 stitches!  Will he help pay for any of her medical expenses?  Of course not!!!  It all falls on me.
 

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RE: I didn't miss the point.
« Reply #22 on: Jul 01, 2005, 03:57:17 PM »
cinb85,

If you knew anything about me, as many long time SPARC posters do, then you would know that it is very rare that I comment about individuals, or their cases. When I do, it is typically as a case in point. I am more concerned with how laws effect all of us. So, to say that I assumed the worst of you is way off the mark. I suggest that you go back and read my reply to wendl, as she suggested.

If you're situation is inequitable, then I will be your biggest defender. But, I don't go by heresay. And, since we don't know each other, that is all it is to this forum. It is very simple to show in a mathematical equation if an order is equitable, or not. If you would like to lend your state and a link to its CS guidelines, I would be happy to show its flaws. You can trust that its mathematical errors are grievous. If I sound confident, it is because I am.

CP's who are getting screwed over should be some of the biggest defenders of CS reform. But, until reform takes place, don't ask me to try to determine what portion of an inequitable guideline amount is equitable. 10%, 20%, 50%, or whatever other percentage of BS is still BS.

The thread was about the founder of ACES, who has a court record of denying access to her child, and ACES' association with different stores. You very well may have valid points about the lack of provisions for your daughter, and the need for her father to step up and be the most important thing he can be for your daughter - THERE! But, save it for another thread, or start a new one.

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RE: CAN you tell me what this means
« Reply #24 on: Jul 01, 2005, 06:34:19 PM »
What this "means" is subjective, as it means different things to different people. As, the title of the group indicates, it is an advisory committee in Indiana. While it says it is an advisery committee about custody and child support, this particular report talked very little about differences in parenting time, and nothing about child rearing costs in various arrangements. Primarily, it deals with the state's effectiveness in collecting child support.

Why do you ask?


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RE: CAN you tell me what this means
« Reply #25 on: Jul 01, 2005, 08:50:25 PM »
Sorry must have hit reply,instead of post.......

I couldn't tell if they are trying to change the laws or not....I know that my state started to take into account the over nights with the NCP when they calculate cs.....however the fairness I don't know.

Truthfully I don't understand cs as dh and bm do not have a cs order...I know its for the child(ren) all that...but the tec. parts confuse me......most of the time to me anyway they do not account for what the NCP needs to raise the child on their time too.....


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RE: CAN you tell me what this means
« Reply #26 on: Jul 01, 2005, 09:19:10 PM »
No harm, no foul. These types of commissions most often are a joke. They spend a whole lot of time and money, without ever addressing obvious issues, such as the fact that the base formula is tragically flawed. The results are that kids get left in the lurch.

CS is not for children. It is a means to transfer money from one parent to another. There is no requirement that that money be spent on children. Typically, when a state starts to take into account overnights at NCP homes, it is done after some arbitrary threshold is exceeded. There is no logical explanation to account for kids needs at say 91 overnights, but not 90 overnights. Why should a kid be left with his needs unaccounted for 90 days out of the year? Wouldn't they be harmed if basic needs such as food, shelter, and clothing were not provided during that time? How many days of the year should their food, shelter, and clothing go unaccounted for?

An equitable formula that is mathematically valid can be applied at any given point along the timesharing and parental income spectrum. When some type of threshold or deviation formula is present, it is a tell-tale sign that the base formula is flawed.

Not very technical or complicated at all.

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RE: What about Walmart? Any takers?
« Reply #27 on: Jul 03, 2005, 11:59:03 PM »
"The Natural Order: Water Finds It's Own Mark."


           I have been reading through the different BOARDS on this site, first looking for someone who could help me with my problems (which are enormous and daunting).

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Then it hit me. I am seeing a common thread run through the issues herein contained and that is Fathers (Specifically) and parents in general, being crushed into submission under the weight of child support and legal fees.

Some of the stories have made me so sad... then is dawned on me like the strike of a lightning flash!

I have spent the last five years strategically fighting to establish an almost gurrila court battle Rules of Engagement to enable myself to become impervious to the common tactics as A.) Exhaustion of Financial Resources and B.) Destabalization of Emotional Constitution as is used in such custody battles.

My goal is now to give back to the community. I would fund each father's quest to reunify with their child if I could, but lacking the immediate resources to do this, I will share what I can.

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« Reply #28 on: Jul 05, 2005, 05:19:47 AM »
 I see Target.com, but Walmart is no longer on their list. Sears, which is also part of Land's End and several other big retailers. Most are small retailers. And their list has grown.
 
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476. Sheplers WesternWear 2.0%
477. ShindigZ by Stumps 5.2%
478. Shoebuy.com 6.8%
479. Shoedini 5.2%
480. ShoeMall 6.0%
481. SHOP.COM 2.0%
482. ShopatHomeTV 2.0%
483. ShopNBC 2.0%
484. ShowPlace 2.8%
485. Shutterfly 4.0%
486. Sierra Club 4.0%
487. Silhouettes 2.4%
488. Simply Whispers 6.0%
489. Site59.com 1.2%
490. SitStay.com 4.0%
491. SmartBargains 4.0%
492. Smarthome 3.2%
493. Smith+Noble 3.2%
494. Smithsonian Store 3.6%
495. Snapfish Special Rate
496. Soccer.com 2.0%
497. Socrates.com 12.0%
498. Soft Surroundings 2.0%
499. Solutions Catalog 2.4%
500. Songs4Worship 4.0%
501. SONY 1.2%
502. Sony Card Visa Special Rate
503. SpaFinder 3.2%
504. SpaWish 2.4%
505. Spiegel 2.4%
506. Spiegel Clearance 2.4%
507. Spilsbury 4.0%
508. SpinLife 2.0%
509. Spiritual Cinema Circle Special Rate
510. Sport Chalet 2.0%
511. Sportmart 2.0%
512. Sports Authority 2.0%
513. Sportsman's Guide 3.2%
514. Stacks and Stacks 3.2%
515. Staples.com 1.2%
516. Star Struck & ProTeam 3.6%
517. Starbucks Card Duetto Visa Special Rate
518. Starbucks Store 4.0%
519. State Line Tack 2.0%
520. StickerGiant 4.0%
521. Stonewall Kitchen 3.2%
522. Sunglass Hut 2.8%
523. Sur La Table 2.8%
524. SureFit Slipcovers 4.0%
525. Swanson Health Products 4.0%
526. Swiss Colony 2.8%
527. SwissOutpost.com 2.8%
528. T-Mobile Special Rate
529. T-Shirts.com 4.0%
530. T. Shipley 4.0%
531. T.J.Maxx 2.0%
532. Tabasco Country Store 2.4%
533. Target.com 2.0%
534. TaxCut.com 6.0%
535. Tech Depot 1.2%
536. Ted by United Special Rate
537. Tender Filet 2.0%
538. Term Life Insurance from OnlineChoice 6.5%
539. Terry's Village 2.4%
540. TextbookX 2.0%
541. The Body Shop 4.0%
542. The Children's Place 2.0%
543. The Company Store 2.0%
544. The Container Store 2.8%
545. The Discover® Platinum Card Special Rate
546. The Discover® Platinum Gas Card Special Rate
547. The Golf Warehouse 2.8%
548. The House 2.8%
549. The Miles Card from Discover® Card Special Rate
550. The Territory Ahead 2.8%
551. Things Remembered 2.4%
552. Thrifty Car Rental 0.4%
553. Timberland 3.2%
554. TimeLife.com 4.8%
555. Tire Rack 2.4%
556. Torrid 2.0%
557. Toshiba 1.2%
558. Tower Records 1.6%
559. TracFone 2.4%
560. Travelocity.com 0.8%
561. TreeGivers 9.2%
562. Treo Store 2.0%
563. Tupperware 2.8%
564. U.S. Toy Company 2.0%
565. Ulla Popken 2.4%
566. ULTA 2.0%
567. UltimateGrill.com 3.2%
568. United Airlines Special Rate
569. United.com Hotels Special Rate
570. UnitedEscapes 0.8%
571. Upper Deck Store 4.0%
572. Urban Outfitters 2.0%
573. USAopoly 4.0%
574. Vacation Outlet Special Rate
575. Value Mags 26.0%
576. Verizon Wireless Special Rate
577. Vermont Country Store 4.0%
578. Vermont Teddy Bear Co. 6.0%
579. Viking Office Products 2.4%
580. Vision Direct 4.8%
581. VistaPrint 6.0%
582. VitaCost 4.0%
583. Vitamin Shoppe 4.0%
584. Vons.com Special Rate
585. Wall Street Journal 14.0%
586. Walter Drake 6.0%
587. We Behave 3.2%
588. Wear Guard 4.0%
589. WebVitamins 4.8%
590. Weight Watchers Special Rate
591. West Marine 1.6%
592. White Flower Farm 3.2%
593. Wickers 6.0%
594. Wilsons Leather 2.0%
595. Wine Enthusiast 2.4%
596. Wine.com 2.4%
597. Winsor Pilates 6.8%
598. Wolf Camera 1.6%
599. Woodwind & Brasswind 2.0%
600. Woolrich.com 2.4%
601. Wyndham Hotels & Resorts Special Rate
602. X-10 Wireless 12.0%
603. Yardiac 4.0%
604. Your Active Pet 4.8%
605. Yves Rocher 6.0%
606. Zales.com 1.6%
607. zChocolat 8.0%
608. ZoneLD 1.6%
609. Zones.com 1.2%
 

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I replied to the thread
« Reply #29 on: Jul 06, 2005, 07:22:49 AM »
because it pertained to Walmart.  I don't feel that I should have started a new thread.  I was just stating the fact the I was surprised that Walmart was teaming up with ACES since Walmart didn't seem to care enough to take a court-ordered wage garnishment out of my ex's paycheck.  

I am ALL for CS reform!  You seem to think that I am totally against what you are fighting for.  Not sure where you got that idea from!

Good luck to you!

 

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