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Just received this..........

Started by Kitty C., Aug 13, 2004, 08:51:38 AM

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Kitty C.

......from Mark Griebel of CNBP.  This is EXTREMELY thought-provoking and should be used to push legislation for rebuttable presumption of JC:


Dear Members,

This is good!

Mark


> Attorney Tom James just posted this to a Minnesota political
> forum in response to the typical bs that we all hear.  Since it's
> from an attorney who is on our side, which is an anamoly, I think
> you might find it to be valuable, as I do:
>
> I agree with Bob and Doug that equality of rights is at least as
> important a value as joint custody. At the same time, though,
> I don't think it is possible to sever the concept of joint custody
> from the concept of equality under the law. By operation of law,
> both members of a married couple have joint custody of their
> children; it is only when  parties separate that the law assumes
> that one of the parties needs to keep that title and one party
> needs to be divested of it. Awards of sole custody therefore
> involve unequal treatment of the children of married parents
> vis-a-vis the children of divorced parents. They also entail
> discrimination between--i.e., unequal treatment of--the
> children of unwed parents and the children of married parents.
>  
> In truth, there was never any logical basis for the assumption
> that only one parent should or must be awarded sole custody
> of children in the first place. Why was it ever considered
> necessary to call one parent a "custodian" and the other a
> "visitor"? The answer to this question has nothing to do with
> Anna Freud, et. al.'s book, Beyond the Best Interests of the
> Child, the book that is most often cited in support of the
> judicial preference for sole custody. That book was written
> well after courts had assumed that they must make an award
> of custody to one parent only. At best, the book's argument
> about stability is only a rationalization, not the source of the
> assumption. (And even the authors of that book changed their
> minds, pointing out in later editions that they are not, in fact,
> opposed to joint custody.)
>  
> The truth is that presumptive sole custody developed early in
> our country's history at a time when children were regarded in
> law as chattel, i.e., property. Accordingly, it made sense then
> to allocate such "property" to one of the parents, just as the
> other items of property the parties owned were to be allocated
> to one or the other parent in a divorce.  
>  
> As our law has evolved, we no longer indulge the fiction of
> marital "unity" (the notion that wives are "part" of their husbands,
> so they don't need to vote, etc.) that was used to rationalize the
> subjugation of women for so long, but we have been very slow
> to evolve past the point of regarding children as chattel. We still
> seem to think that it makes sense to believe that the children,
> like the house, are items of property that need to be "awarded"
> to one parent or the other in a divorce. That is the assumption
> that the bill for presumptive joint custody seeks to challenge.
>  
> Unlike laws that have been passed in other states, and bills that
> are pending in others, legislation being proposed in Minnesota
> is not about requiring absolute equality of time between parents.
> It simply requires recognition that both parents continue to be a
> child's parents even if they themselves become divorced. While
> maximum contact with both parents would undoubtedly be in a
> child's best interests in most cases, it is conceivable, under the
> legislation being proposed in Minnesota, that a joint custody
> arrangement could even involve a child being in one parent's
> custody 90% of the time, and in the other parent's custody
> only 10% of the time. (I'm not saying that would be a good
> idea, but only that it is theoretically conceivable.) There is
> no logical reason why this could not still be called joint custody.
> The fact that there can be no logical basis for any  cut-off line
> beyond which time with one's child becomes "custodial" rather
> than "visitational" in nature is a good indication that there is
> something fundamentally wrong with the sole-custody-and-visitor
> conception itself.
>  
> Fears about the impact on child support are also not justified.
> The legislation being proposed in Minnesota would not change
> the Hortis-Valento formula for calculating child support that
> is currently applied in joint custody cases. The difference
> would be that instead of denying folks who have the children
> a substantial portion of the time any child support at all (as
> the current system does if they do not have the title of "sole
> custodian"), child support would be allocated to each parent
> according to the amount of time the children spend in their
> care, rather than on the basis of who is in a better position--
> whether because of gender bias or simply by being in a better
> financial position to litigate--to persuade a court to "award"
> him/her the title of "sole custodian" and diminish the other
> parent to "visitor" status.
>  
> In a recent case before the Minnesota Court of Appeals
> (Kammueller v. Kammueller), it was decided that even if
> a parent has a child 60% of the time~even if by court order--
> she nevertheless is not entitled to any child support at all
> from the other parent--and indeed must keep paying child
> support to the other parent--if the other parent possesses
> the title of "sole custodian." This is completely unfair and
> irrational.  By requiring allocations of child support according
> to time rather than title, joint custody creates a better fit
> between the payment of child support and the need for it.  
>  
> As for the "stability" argument, again, that idea came out of
> Anna Freud, et. al.'s 1971 book, Beyond the Best Interests of
> the Child. A great deal of research has been done since then,
> and it shows that children benefit considerably more from
> other kinds of stability than they do from geographic stability.
> Specifically, they benefit more from the emotional stability that
> results from maintaining a meaningful and substantial
> relationship with both parents than they do from the geographic
> stability afforded by having only one physical home. (For
> citations to some of these studies, visit //www.jointcustodymn.org
> .)  
>  
> Ultimately, I think a day will come when our society will come to
> see that the term "child custody" itself needs to be relegated to
> the scrap-heap of history. Many psychologists, social workers,
> mediators and child development professionals are already of
> that opinion. For myself, I know that I will rejoice when that
> day comes, for I believe that it will mark a new era in which
> children will no longer be regarded as property over which
> parents fight for ownership, but as living, breathing human
> beings whose interests should be placed above all others,
> not subordinated to them.
>  
> --Tom
>  
>
Handle every stressful situation like a dog........if you can't play with it or eat it, pee on it and walk away.......

MYSONSDAD

This is of  great interest.

Still waiting for something to kick off in Illinois...

Kitty C.

Contact Mark Griebel at //www.cnbp.info/ - this site is dedicated to both Iowa and Illinois and I think they are taking aim at IL next..........
Handle every stressful situation like a dog........if you can't play with it or eat it, pee on it and walk away.......