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StPaulieGirl

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More on John Kerry
« on: Feb 24, 2004, 12:01:23 PM »
Anyone who is curious about John Kerry, and the whole anti war movement, come and check this out:

http://www.wintersoldier.com

Many of you folks who are on these boards, weren't even born yet when the Viet Nam War was being fought.  My parents made sure I didn't know about anti war protests.  They managed to censor everything...lol, try doing that these days ;-)  I'm posting this for educational purposes, not so you'll vote for George Bush :+

I'm going to post a link to the active thread, because it's full of personal commentary, and great links.  

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1083607/posts?page=1,50

There's some choice stuff on Jane (America's sweetheart) Fonda.

Diotima and friends busted their butts on this site, so if you like it tell them so!


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RE: More on John Kerry
« Reply #1 on: Feb 24, 2004, 05:06:05 PM »
I was a small child when Vietnam was ongoing. I watched the evening news and saw the body counts, I watched as my uncle appeared on footage on the news being loaded into a medivac.


Jane Fonda? The only thing I would do for her,, is throw gasoline if she was on fire.

Jane Fonda advocated the killing of US servicemen,,, I advocate someone blowing her head off and feeding her stinking carcass to pigs.

StPaulieGirl

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I often wondered what her father thought..
« Reply #2 on: Feb 25, 2004, 04:55:24 PM »
About his daughter.  He must have been thoroughly disgusted with her.

Lol, I remember when Jane launched he exercise video.  We were all over at my parents house, and the commercial came on tv.  I didn't know who was going to break the tv first, my now ex, or my mom!

They should have shaved her head and sent her packing to Russia.  Well, actually they should have had her shot as a traitor....

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A V.N. Green Beret Officer's Response to Kerry
« Reply #3 on: Feb 25, 2004, 05:05:11 PM »
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1085408/posts?page=1

A V.N. Green Beret Officer's Response to Kerry
Email received from WWII pilot friend. | 2/25/04 | Don Bendell


Posted on 02/25/2004 1:26:32 PM PST by CIBvet


GUEST OPINION


My wife had rotator cuff surgery earlier this year, and the recovery is terribly painful. Then, she developed a staph-epi infection, and they had to cut the same scar open and operate on her again. Just thinking about the pain and anxiety of facing that painful surgery a second time in the same wound, makes me cringe. That experience, however pales in comparison to what I am going through right now, in my heart.


The old hurts are surfacing and the feelings of betrayal by fellow citizens, and their leader stirring them up, are breaking my heart again. I am being cut in the same scar. How did we who served in Vietnam suddenly become cold-blooded killers, torturers, and rapists, of the ilk of the Nazi SS or the Taliban? Most of us were American soldiers who grew up idolizing John Wayne, Roy Rogers, and all the other heroes. That was why I volunteered. But for political expediency, John Kerry has rewritten history, again. After spending only four months in the country of Vietnam, John Kerry testified before Congress in 1971 with these exact words about incidents he supposedly witnessed or heard about from other vets: "They personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam."


I was a Green Beret Officer who volunteered for duty in Vietnam and fought in the thick of it in 1968 and 1969 on a Special Forces A-team on the Ho Chi Minh Trail, just for starters. We were the elite. We saw the most action. Everybody in the world knows that. But we did not just kill people, we built a church, a school, treated illnesses, passed out soap, food, and clothing, and had fun and loving interaction with the indigenous people of Vietnam, just like our boys did in Normandy, Baghdad, Saigon, and everywhere American soldiers ever served. We all gave away our candy bars and rations to kids. Our hearts to oppressed people all over the globe.


My children and grandchildren could read your words, and think those horrendous things about me, Mr. Kerry. You are a bold-faced, unprincipled liar, and a disgrace, and you have dishonored me and all my fellow Vietnam veterans. Sure, there were a couple bad-apples, but I saw none, and I saw it all, and if I did, as an army officer, it was my obligation to stop it, or at the very least report it. Why is there not a single record anywhere of you ever reporting any incidents like this or having the perpetrators arrested? The answer is simple. You are a liar. Your medals and mine are not a free pass for lifetime, Senator Kerry, to bypass character, integrity, and morality. I earn my green beret over and over daily in all aspects of my life.


Eight National Guard Green Berets, and other National Guard soldiers, have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you totally dishonored their widows and families by lumping National Guard service in with being a draft-dodger, conscientious objector, and deserter, just so you can try to sabotage the patriotism of our President who proudly served as an Air National Guard jet pilot. I have a son earning his Green Beret at Fort Bragg right now, and his wife serves honorably in the Air National Guard, just like President Bush did, and I am as proud of her as I am my son. I volunteered for Vietnam and have no problem whatsoever with President Bush being our Commander-In-Chief. In fact, I am proud of him as our leader.


John Kerry, you personally derailed the Vietnam Human Rights Bill, HR2883, in 2001, after it had passed the House by a 411 to 1 vote, and thousands of pro-American Montagnard tribespeople in Vietnam died since then who could have been saved, by you. Earlier, as Chair of the Senate Select Committee on MIA/POW Affairs, you personally quashed the efforts of any and all veterans to report sightings of living POW's, when you held those reins in Congress. You have fought tooth and nail to push for the US to normalize relations with Vietnam for years. Why, Mr. Kerry? Simple, your first cousin C. Stewart Forbes, CEO, of Colliers International, recently signed a contract with Hanoi, worth BILLIONS of dollars for Collier's International to become the exclusive real estate representative for the country of Vietnam.


"Hanoi John," now that it works for you, you beat your chest about your Vietnam service, but to me, you are a phony, opportunistic, hypocrite. You are one of those politicians that is like a fertilizer machine: all that comes out of you is horse manure, and you are spreading it everywhere.


Medals do not make a man. Morals do.


Don Bendell


Canon City, Colorado
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For every every veteran who speaks up, there are a hundred thinking the same thing...

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Respect and dignity
« Reply #4 on: Feb 26, 2004, 03:54:32 PM »
Everyone please try to relate and come to grips with the Vietnam era...the commentary is written all over a black wall in Washington DC.  The ones that did'nt return home are the heroes.    This issue is not an issue (except to a liberal media) and raising this issue ANYWHERE in this manner is in very poor taste .... insensitive and dispespectful to those that serve the rest of us. I knew numerous heroes but never met a protester.    

Joe was a boyhood friend and as boys sometimes do we would mix it up on occasion usually starting out with Indian wrestling and escalating from there until Joe's mother (or mine) would appear on the porch smiling and saying 'do you boys want some cherry kool-aid ?' or 'how about a banana pop-sickle boys ?'  

Joe was very tuff !  He became a Marine.   His little brother also became a Marine so he could 'go find him'.  One sister became the MIA-POW bracelet campaigner in the community.  It was years before he came off the MIA-POW rolls.

From time to time I would ask mom about Joe's mother and the response was always the same ...'she's still not talking to anyone'.  I  ran into Joe's mother about 20 years later one evening while she was sweeping the floor in a landermat.  No one else was there.  She never looked up.   I went close to her and softly said ...'Mrs H. this is Davy'. She never flinched, never looked up.... just kept sweeping. ... saw Joe's mother obit in the paper about 6 months ago...no mention of Joe or any of her children or her husband (also a Marine).

If we, as a society, do not start getting very serious about life then our sons or grandsons may not return home from Dallas or Chicago...


Peanutsdad

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RE: Respect and dignity
« Reply #5 on: Feb 26, 2004, 07:32:53 PM »
hehehe,

Actually Davy, I met a few "protesters" while I was in,, and they also were in. Funny thing is,, they quit protesting and gave up their liberal views in light of someone who isnt impressed a bit by their lofty ideas shooting at them.

They immediately returned fire like any good conservative would.

I've often heard that the only difference between a liberal and a conservative is this: The liberal hasnt been mugged yet.

I dont know about that so much,, but I DO know,,,that all the liberal protesters I met did indeed have a stronger love of self preservation,, than love of their "oppressed fellow man".

To me,, there is no more serious approach to life than that. It cuts through all the BS, the politics, the political correctness, the ethics classes , the lofty morals and ideals so many love to prattle on about. There is something about FEELING the heat of a round go past you that focuses your entire being on what is really important to you.

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With all due respect...
« Reply #6 on: Feb 26, 2004, 08:56:51 PM »
The MIA/POW issue is a huge tragedy, and completely immoral.  In light of not offending anyone, I didn't post this story about Kerry.  Apparently he was chairman of the Senate Select Committee on P.O.W./ M.I.A. Affairs.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1084554/posts

This has the original link, the whole article, and some interesting commentary from fellow vets.  This article will make you sick.  

Davy, don't come back on me for posting this link.  I don't want to cause anyone any more pain, but you all need to know what kind of pond scum Kerry really is.

Many parents and family like your Mrs. H, died never knowing what happened to their boy.  I still see the occasional black flag still flying over someone's house.  Just damn...

 

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