H1N1 vaccination custody issue.

[zikzak]

what would be the mechanism to have a educative, health, religious or any other important system for the development of a child, listen at both parents in case they can't agree on how and what choices they want for a child if there wasn't been any court ruling on the legal custody of the child?

the question is not about if H1N1 vaccination its good or not, it could be also a cancer treatment that one parent refuses by religious or other means to be apply to his/her child, or a educative system (homeschooling vs private schooling), or the approach to a specific religion rather to the one of the other parent (baptist vs Jewish) and the list goes on.


in the end courts most rule about the legal custody of the child.


but what if there is not been a ruling yet, people here say that custody and decisions goes to primary parent, but is there a way to have protected the other parent rights as to oppose or to choose specific decisions that are involved in his/her child's development and that differ of the primary parent?.

[ocean]

Well...lets just say the parents were married and something came up that they didnt agree....(cancer treatment?) ..the case would go to court to decide who will have medical decisions. There was a big case in the US a few months ago where BOTH parents did not want child to have chemo treatments and child protective services came in and won in court that child WILL have treatment. The mother hid child but later turned herself in and child began treatments.

The only thing you might be able to do is, file in court that the child will not be vaccinated until a hearing date. The courts at that time will make a decision on which parent would make a final decision when both cant agree. Here is the US there is a big list of shots the kids MUST have in order to sign up and stay in public school. The only way out is to prove it is against your religion.

[zikzak]

** update **

Here is the US there is a big list of shots the kids MUST have in order to sign up and stay in public school. The only way out is to prove it is against your religion.

immunization waiver forms are valid in all states in the US if parents do not wish to have their child's vaccinated.

not only religious but philosophical objections are valid to waive this "must" be vaccinated.

and i know that as a fact.


our doctor was so open about this and give us enough info about Avoiding Unwanted Immunizations.


file in court that my child should not be vaccinated until a hearing date sounds a solution.


thanx.

[ocean]

[SIZE=+1]Not totally true..you have to fill out forms and have them signed...see below...(religious, medical reasons-some children are allergic to things in the shot) The school needs documentation of why child is not being vaccinated.

NewMexico - Parents have the right to refuse immunizations formedical,religious, or[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]philosophicalreasons. Medical exemptions must be signed by the child's physician[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=+1]Religious/philosophical exemption forms must be filled out, officially notarized,and[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]returnedto the NM Immunization Program for filing. A copy will be given to[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=+1]formsmust be renewed and resubmitted every school year.

Washington:

Your Child can be exempted (excused) from immunization for medical, personal or religious reasons. However, if there
is an outbreak of a vaccine-preventable disease that your child has not been immunized against, she or he can be
excluded from school, preschool or child care until the outbreak is over.
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[Davy]

FYI ... 800,000 Doses of Children's H1N1 Vaccine Recalled

The REAL QUESTION OR ISSUE is : should any school district be allowed to conveniently herd children together for the purpose of medicating them. 

The person that was allowed to register the child(ren) in the school may :

-- NOT be the parent.

-- NOT possess a court order.

-- NOT have a valid or current court order.

-- NOT be mentally stable. 

... and the child(ren) may be the subject of a search by the bio parent(s) and/or legal proceedings in a proper far-away jurisdiction.

[MomofTwo]

The vaccines were recalled due to the vaccine had lost strength, NOT due to safety.

The poster already said the person who registered the child is Mom.

[Davy]

......... and a school district did not know of today's recall or future recalls when they herded the innocent children together AND they may not know (and they probably did not care) that the registrant was a parent

and 800,000 doses were not recalled in any one school district either

next time it may be a recall of 5 million doses after killing 2.5 million children

and the mother or father can not pull the child from the school because they don't know where the child is located .

Moreover the OP and others may like to know the position he and his child find themselves should not be considered normal or acceptable.   

[ocean]

Once again it is NOT the school giving these out...it is the local health department offering them AT the school so they get to the most kids the fastest. The letter comes from the health department through the school. Any parent/guardian can say no to the shot. They are not being herded in. The posters issue is he is not considered a legal parent at this time.

[MomofTwo]

and he knows where his child is...

He has already said the child was born in the United States, poster hasn't seen his child in four years, he has never said he has been kept from the child - he moved out of the country ...and they were not married and he is fighting for shared legal custody, which means he doesn't have it now.

So, who in your opinion should be responsible for making decisions regarding the child's health and welfare?   He has said the child lives with the mother. The person that is there every day with the child providing for and taking care of her or someone thousands of miles away who hasn't seen his child?

[Davy]

Sorry !  The legal statues are clear and ya'll are reguritating benign social policies.

A state has no authority to determine and provide the medical care of a child based on local school district personnel's designation of a legal parent.