So Tired "debate"

[sparrowmom]

 I am not sure why my post became some twisted debate over "stupid shit"

 The only thing I can think to say is this....

Love your Child More Than You Hate The Other Parent..

If You Can Read This..... Do yourself and your Child a Favor...

Let your child Grow and allow them to Thrive!



Just because A Woman might have POPPED Them Out Of Her *****.

Or A Man may have provided some *****




Do You Really Think This Creates Ownership??


I could care less what anyone that seeks out
"ownership"
thinks....

Regardless of how A child was concieved,  
No person should claim "Ownership"

Disregard my last post and consider this if you can..

As a PARENT, I have only 1 Job.
To raise the child I was blessed with.
And ensure that they become a Productive And Respected ADULT.  

You Know What???  
This Can't be DONE  unless someone STOPS
 thinking about themself...  
 (Or something like that)


If anyone has taken the time to read this far.......

Go into your childs room, make sure that the blanket is covering them the way they like it...

If you are unable to do this,
Do you know what to do when your child is with you??  

If Not...   It is not the (***** Parent) fault....
It is not bacause the ***** refused to allow your time.

It Might be....  That you forgot to look...

These things Happen....  
When You are Too Busy  Thinking About
YOU!

Like I said,
LOVE your child more than you HATE
 the OP

It is easier to do that you think!

If you are unable to do this.....  

Please don't blame the Court...  

Did They did follow you home begging you to provide an opinion about your situation??!!

 (If a Judge did, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME PICTURES!!!)

 Because we all know that you should have some!!!    
 Or at least some "Vocal Proof"

NO STOP!!!  I Can't stop the Giggles!!!
The Image of a JUDGE running down the road, robe about to trip  legs due to the crazy pace....  





 

[sparrowmom]

Hello,
I just became aware that my profile states that I am M.

I assume I clicked the wrong area..

I apologize for the misinformation..

I assure All, I am of the Female Gender.

[mistoffolees]

>LOVE your child more than you HATE
> the OP
>
>It is easier to do that you think!
>
>If you are unable to do this.....  
>
>Please don't blame the Court...  

Well said. Many of the people here are blaming the system for parents who are putting their own needs first. You even see it from some regular posters here (and at least one admin) who is so worried about making the other parent look bad that they're refusing to do what's right - and then blaming the system.

[Kitty C.]

That's a LOT of generalizing.

Do you want to start this up again, Mist???  I'm sure no one else does.  But to 'quote' you, don't put words into our mouths.  'You even see it from some regular posters here (and at least one admin) who is so worried about making the other parent look bad that they're refusing to do what's right - and then blaming the system.'  That may be how you 'interpreted' it, but thru that entire thread, I never saw a regular poster ONCE saying they refuse to do what's right for their child.  Their (and my) beef is desperately wanting to do what is right by the child, but the courts so often refuse to let them!

GET IT RIGHT OR DON'T SAY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MixedBag]

Mist, you haven't got a clue .....you just plain haven't got a clue....

[Stirling]

"Just because A Woman might have POPPED Them Out Of Her *****. or A Man may have provided some ***** Do You Really Think This Creates Ownership??"


Actually it is how the laws are currently written that creates ownwership of children.  Children are merely property and have vertually no rights under the current legal system.  This is yet another example of how the systems is flawed at it's very core.

For what it's worth I do agree with what you are trying to say, but until the system is changed to support the end result that you wish to see children will continue to be "property".  Creating financial accountability for both parents and structuring the laws to ensure that the child will be supported (rather than a redistribution of wealth from one parent to the other with no acountability) would be a good start.  Also, there should be a persumption of 50/50 parenting time with both parents being treated equally at the starting point of divorce (where women aren't magicly somehow the better parent).  

There should be nothing wrong with a level playing field and the removal of the financial insentives that the current system gives to the CP.  Remove those financial incentives and you will get agreements that better support and meet the needs of the children.

[SPARC Admin]

>You even see it
>from some regular posters here (and at least one admin) who is
>so worried about making the other parent look bad that they're
>refusing to do what's right - and then blaming the system.

I don't need to do anything to make my ex (or you) look bad. Both of you seem to be doing a fine job without any input from me.

[mistoffolees]

>That's a LOT of generalizing.
>
>Do you want to start this up again, Mist???  I'm sure no one
>else does.  But to 'quote' you, don't put words into our
>mouths.  'You even see it from some regular posters here (and
>at least one admin) who is so worried about making the other
>parent look bad that they're refusing to do what's right - and
>then blaming the system.'  That may be how you 'interpreted'
>it, but thru that entire thread, I never saw a regular poster
>ONCE saying they refuse to do what's right for their child.
>Their (and my) beef is desperately wanting to do what is right
>by the child, but the courts so often refuse to let them!
>
>GET IT RIGHT OR DON'T SAY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't put words in anyone's mouth. I said that 'many' believe a certain way.

As for examples of not putting kids first? How about these:

- Someone arguing about providing a lunch for their kids when they have the kids overnight - just because they thought their ex was benefiting

- Several people arguing that child support should be set at survival levels - no matter how much money the NCP can afford to pay

- A number of people arguing that child support shouldn't happen at all.

That's just a couple.

[mistoffolees]

>Mist, you haven't got a clue .....you just plain haven't got
>a clue....

If you feel like discussing things rationally, feel free. Instead, I see you're back to your normal name calling to disguise your lack of an intelligent argument.

[mistoffolees]

>>You even see it
>>from some regular posters here (and at least one admin) who
>is
>>so worried about making the other parent look bad that
>they're
>>refusing to do what's right - and then blaming the system.
>
>I don't need to do anything to make my ex (or you) look bad.
>Both of you seem to be doing a fine job without any input from
>me.
>


If you feel like discussing things rationally, feel free. Instead, I see you're back to your normal name calling to disguise your lack of an intelligent argument.